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Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by mistermann on Friday September 23, 2016 @08:59AM (#12564208)
Does every car have an LTE connection? Do you have to buy a sim from your local provider or how does that work?
Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by Reason077 on Friday September 23, 2016 @09:28AM (#12564397)
Every recent Tesla has a built-in LTE connection. (I think some of the earlier models were 3G only)

You don't need to buy your own SIM - it comes with its own international roaming SIM, with free data for 8 years.

Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by daveguy on Friday September 23, 2016 @09:55AM (#12564611)
What happens in 8 years? Do you pay Tesla for a subscription?
Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by mikeash on Friday September 23, 2016 @10:52AM (#12565029)
Minor correction, it's free for 4 years.

As for what happens, nobody knows, because nobody's run out the four years yet. When they announced the four free years, they also said that the clock started for existing customers on January 1, 2014, so nobody will hit the end for another year and some.

I'd guess that it'll end up being a paid subscription after that, but nobody really knows yet. I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla doesn't know yet. I wouldn't be too surprised if they just make it free for life, since it's pretty cheap to provide and so important to the car, but that might just be wishful thinking on my part.

Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by toomuchtodo on Saturday September 24, 2016 @11:17AM (#12571242)
There will be a cost, but it will be minor, to offset their data costs on ATTs network for the massive amount of data they using for autopilot telemetry.

There is a rumor their cellular costs far exceed their Supercharger electricity costs.

Re:Kreisel Electric takes on Tesla by mikeash on Sunday September 25, 2016 @12:21PM (#12575949)
I wouldn't be surprised if that last part was true. With my electricity costs, I pay about 4 cents per mile. If that's typical, and if the average Tesla driver does 1,000 miles/month with 10% on Superchargers (which I think is vaguely close to the truth) then the electricity costs would be something like $4/month/car.