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Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by tucaz on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:25PM (#12509038)
TL;DR: Study foundational blocks by repeating then until you understand. Keep repeating as you build knowledge and move to "harder" things.

I like the message, but not the messenger.

Articles like this, in my point of view, fail to delivery their messages in a better way because they are simply too long and with too much noise for my taste.

The point he is trying to get across could be explained in a simpler way without the necessity of explaining how he went to the army, what he did there and all his personal history.

All this information is completely irrelevant to the main goal of the article and turn it into a boring story instead of useful piece of practical advice.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by danso on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:47PM (#12509220)
A lot of people connect with concepts via story-telling. Life lessons aren't always learned by just consuming a stream of facts. And facts themselves aren't inherently valuable. A good story helps some readers filter what applies to them and what does not.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by r_smart on Friday September 16, 2016 @10:41AM (#12514307)
I recently picked up the book "How to Win Friends and Influence People". It's full of story telling, with very little fact, and the main thrusts of each chapter are summarized in a sentence. The bulk of the chapters is mostly just stories.

Overall this seems like a really effective strategy for the subject matter. It's easy to intellectually understand the summary sentences, but all the stories in the chapters are illustrative, and the idea is that spending time with the book helps reinforce the mindset that leads to the attitudes it espouses.

So that was a long winded way of saying: Good point.

I will say that a lot of long form journalism pieces these days seem overly focused on their narratives, and often, feel like time wasting to me. But I'm usually in information gathering mode when I read them. I don't want personal stories, I want facts, and links to research when I'm in that mindset. Maybe it just feels to me like they are too often considering the story they're telling as proof enough of their point without doing enough to support it otherwise.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by chairleader on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:49PM (#12509236)
Agreed. I filed this story away as a way to explain math-centric learning to the more literary minded.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by lolive on Friday September 16, 2016 @08:09AM (#12513430)
Especially in our modern time where our mind spends its time curating zillion of tiny messages to extract meaningful messages.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by FT_intern on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:26PM (#12509539)
A few extra points to add:

- expanding on repeating: Enumerate and solve/memorize every permutation of a problem/theorem/etc. (ex: in f = ma, what happens if m is high and a is low and the reverse). Each case becomes a subroutine (or a chunk) in your brain that quickly fires once memorized.

- explaining your understanding of a topic does not translate to the ability of applying that understanding to an actual application

The writing was superfluous and can be summed up in 2-3 points, although enjoyable to read as a story if you're up for that.

I'm a bit disappointed because the title is misleading. The author didn't really rewire her brain. She just spent more time learning and set a different goal (of trying out every permutation instead of simply doing well on tests) than her classmates.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by happy-go-lucky on Friday September 16, 2016 @11:10AM (#12514520)
Yes, the title is misleading and the author is verbose, but the gist of the story is corroborated :)
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by rinchik1 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:43PM (#12509180)
Not a big deal but was written by Barbara Oakley (woman) "As a young woman with a yen for learning language and no money or skills to speak of ..."
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by neves on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:55PM (#12509731)
Her on line course: "Learning how to learn" is the most successful MOOC of all time: https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

I really enjoyed following it.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by ktRolster on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:22PM (#12509504)
She also wrote A Mind for Numbers: How to Excel at Math and Science (Even If
 You Flunked Algebra) which is a good read.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by noobermin on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:09PM (#12509413)
I remember first learning Quantum Field Theory. One week, my head would ache from what I was reading but by the next week, that bit would be incorporated into new parts, so the "confusing stuff" become foundation for the next week's confusing stuff. Eventually, it became intuitive.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by sevenless on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:12PM (#12509435)
How do you learn quantum field theory? I took a tiny amount of QM in school - basically, solving the Schrodinger equation for a few simple systems. What's the next step?
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by noobermin on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:24PM (#12509519)
I read Shrednicki[0]'s book, a pre-print is freely available online (or was 4 or so years ago). A class in Grad school solidified it for me, specifically because they related it back to physics, like the standard model.

If you're going to start learning QFT, I suggest you try to understand time-dependent perturbation theory as much as possible. Also, be sure you have a handle on special relativity and scattering theory. QFT that most people use is really those things combined.

[0] http://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~mark/ms-qft-DRAFT.pdf

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by JadeNB on Friday September 16, 2016 @10:10AM (#12514098)
For what it's worth, that PDF says "Please DO NOT DISTRIBUTE this document. Instead, link to http://www.physics.ucsb.edu/∼mark/qft.html " (which has a link to the PDF).
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by noobermin on Friday September 16, 2016 @04:29PM (#12517103)
Fair enough. Unfortunately, I can't edit the comment now.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by agumonkey on Friday September 16, 2016 @08:04AM (#12513405)
Anybody experienced the opposite ? first time I was exposed to combinatorics everything felt natural and intuitive. The following lesson everything had become a blur.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by pbhjpbhj on Friday September 16, 2016 @05:39AM (#12512838)
QFT was my watershed the point where I really needed to learn, study, concentrate, apply, ... it wasn't at all intuitive to me.

Unfortunately I hadn't learnt to do any of those things; result was scraping a minimum pass.

To me it was like trying to picture n-dimensional hyper-cubes.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by xenihn on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:50PM (#12510523)
This was my exact experience learning how to program at 24.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by nickledave on Thursday September 15, 2016 @08:47PM (#12511150)
+1 for storytelling. This article is pretty much my life story, and I constantly tell that story to other people, because my own painful personal experience suggests our educational system does not do a good job of delivering the same message. Maybe tucaz doesn't need to hear it. But there are a lot, a lot, of people that do. How many times have you heard someone say "I'm just not good at math" or "I'll never be able to draw" or "I have two left feet, I can't dance"? It's just because they never learned how to learn.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by danmendes on Thursday September 15, 2016 @09:11PM (#12511231)
I suggest that author's personal experience does not give any insight into large phenomena affecting many more lives than the author's own that could not otherwise and more succinctly come forward without the addition of the overly personal voice into the prose.

This style of delivering information is called gonzo journalism and has taken over a large part of the media. What people forget is that gonzo journalism was initially a form of entertainment. The kind of prose that serves telling the readers about the Kentucky Derby is not same that serves the conveying of information in a large number of categories. This is one of them.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by nickledave on Friday September 16, 2016 @01:31AM (#12512037)
So you don't know any people that are mathphobes? You are right that it would be nice to have some hard science to back up the author's claims. Maybe we should read her book. I'm sure it's basically "Fear and Loathing in Calculus".
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by SamBam on Thursday September 15, 2016 @09:04PM (#12511206)
> TL;DR: Study foundational blocks by repeating then until you understand. Keep repeating as you build knowledge and move to "harder" things.

If I just read that, I'd file that away as "something someone once said on the internet," wouldn't give it much weight, and would forget about. I see dozens of competing one-liners like that every day.

The story made the message much stronger, made me believe it, and will make me remember it.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by txutxu on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:53PM (#12509279)
Thanks for the TL;DR the topic was interesting but I was tired for read more after all day.

My grandma used to say "brain is a muscle".

And I used to see it as an over-simplification, because I was studying, etc...

With the time, I've come to a similar conclusion, a different muscle, and with a micro-services architecture, but at the end of the day, it inherits the attributes, methods and behavior, of the "muscle" class.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by SomeStupidPoint on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:18PM (#12510310)
> at the end of the day, it inherits the attributes, methods and behavior, of the "muscle" class

Really, it inherits from the general "biological system" class, of which "muscle" is the common subclass referenced, since it's the one most people have familiarity in utilizing.

The differentiation of "muscle" from other "biological system" classes is entirely unrelated to the "use-it-or-lose-it" feature, however, and your subclassing is inappropriate.

While this seems like being pedantic, I'd argue it's important to know when we're using a member to exemplify a class versus when we're talking about the definition of a class.

The same use-it-or-lose-it applies to everything from lung capacity to stomach size to hormone production by organs, and is a good principle to know about how biology works. The emphasis on "muscle" as the class (rather than an exemplifying member) hides this underlying truth about all biological systems -- that they dynamically adapt to efficiency.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by hoke_t on Thursday September 15, 2016 @08:29PM (#12511061)
Username checks out.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by lake99 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:34PM (#12509107)
Some people extoll the virtues of long-form writing. But even a site like HN is far too information dense to spend so much time reading one article. It's a different matter when we're learning something of an academic nature, of course. That's why I love summaries such as yours.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by laxatives on Thursday September 15, 2016 @03:46PM (#12509212)
There's something to said about attention spans in the digital age. Nautilus isn't a single serving news site; it provides long essays with sufficient background to digest a topic you probably don't really spend much time thinking about otherwise.

They aren't trying to give you a single sentence summary of some result. They are trying to get you to care about some esoteric subject. This one just happens to gel with the ycombinator crowd.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by daveguy on Thursday September 15, 2016 @04:19PM (#12509485)
I completely agree. I have found a speed reading extension to be quite valuable in getting a quick overview of an article. The speed reading time for this article was 5 minutes at 600 wpm (practiced up from 300 wpm). The speed read is good enough to get the TL;DR and a little more depth about the article.

This is the extension I use (it lets you rewind with k and pause with space -- helpful for getting more understanding out):

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/spreed-speed-read-...

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by ivan_ah on Friday September 16, 2016 @12:49AM (#12511908)
Have you tried text-to-speech software? The built-in one for Mac OS X is quite good (Alex, the default voice is not annoying).

I set the words per minute to a very high rate, and I get my hacker news while exercising or doing chores around the house. I've completely stopped reading long articles, except when there are intersperced code samples.

I highly recommend.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by bsder on Thursday September 15, 2016 @06:29PM (#12510383)
While I tend to agree with the thesis, personal anecdote does not make a valid conclusion.

We probably have decent research on this at this point. Anybody versed in it weighing it?

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by sn9 on Thursday September 15, 2016 @09:06PM (#12511214)
The world-class neuroscientist with whom she teaches a free online class as mentioned at the bottom of the piece clearly agrees with her.

Not surprising as she didn't come up with the ideas herself. She stumbled on the underlying principles and did research like anyone else on the terminology scientific experts in learning use to talk about those principles.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by bsder on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:55AM (#12512324)
> The world-class neuroscientist with whom she teaches a free online class as mentioned at the bottom of the piece clearly agrees with her.

Yet neither of these folks seem to be doing primary research in the particular area they are teaching the course in.

Oakley's peer-reviewed resume on this is quite scarce: http://www.barbaraoakley.com/articlesandreviews.html

Sejnowski is similarly light: http://www.salk.edu/scientist/terrence-sejnowski/publication...

Are we going to wind up with another "10,000 hours" debacle?

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by sn9 on Saturday September 17, 2016 @05:09PM (#12522465)
Being an expert in something doesn't require being an author of a peer-reviewed journal article on the subject.

Journal articles are written to communicate information to those who couldn't perform the experiment/research themselves, either because they have their own research areas (overlapping or not) or because they simply aren't researchers.

No one person is going to have enough depth and breadth to satisfy your requirements. Not even textbook authors would meet them.

Scientists, as part of their training, learn to quickly dissect papers written by others and assimilate the information to the point where they can often make modifications and create experiments that improve on the original or answer a related question not addressed by the first. This is not dissimilar to the way that programmers can take a program written by another and modify/extend it.

You're weirdly focused on this "argument from ultimate authority" instead of simply evaluating the claims and the data that support them. Googling a few of the terms in the article that you're unfamiliar with would be a more useful way to spend your time.

Though first, if you're going to make an informed criticism of a scientist's publication record, you might do well to have enough experience with searching for publications to know that a world-class scientist doesn't always have all of his publications on his website. That was a highlight reel of decades of research [0].

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Sejnowski%20TJ

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by kaitai on Friday September 16, 2016 @11:55AM (#12514869)
I don't think this is the right metric for weighing these claims. As a mathematician, I do not do primary research in calculus or linear algebra...

...but teaching those classes pays the bills.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by bsder on Saturday September 17, 2016 @03:49AM (#12519580)
But you do not claim to be an expert on teaching or to have "The BEST Way To Learn Linear Algebra".
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by SamBam on Thursday September 15, 2016 @09:06PM (#12511217)
... the author wrote a book on the topic, and teaches a fairly famous course on it. I'd hope you'd give those credentials at least as much weight as some HN self-proclaimed expert.
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by bsder on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:47AM (#12512290)
> ... the author wrote a book on the topic, and teaches a fairly famous course on it.

Sadly, that doesn't automatically mean anything from a correctness perspective.

Educational methodology, in particular, tends to be absolutely rife with fads more than fact and immediately sets off my alerts.

This is doubly problematic when someone touts how popular their course is instead of how effective it is.

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by SamBam on Monday September 19, 2016 @01:20PM (#12533015)
Context: You disparage someone as simply touting their personal anecdote, and ask if anyone around here is a "real" expert.

If someone had replied "why yes, actually I just wrote a book on the topic, and I teach a huge course on it," would you have accepted that person as being "versed" in the topic?

Can we at least agree that the author is actually more qualified than you seem to give credit for in your original post?

Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by pbhjpbhj on Friday September 16, 2016 @05:44AM (#12512862)
See also authors of dieting fads. Popularity doesn't make you right [nor wrong].
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by BaronSamedi on Friday September 16, 2016 @08:57AM (#12513646)
There is a whole field in cognitive psychology, cognitive learning theory, devoted to this topic. One element of learning theory that may be of interest to HN readers is their notion of a "schema" (not an RDBMS schema). Schemas are the networked data structures in the brain (based ultimately on the underlying physical brain structure--neurons, regions, etc.) There is some interesting work in how schemas are acquired, primarily through imitation and repetition (which is what you would expect when training a neural network).
Re:The building blocks of understanding are memorization and... by sverige on Thursday September 15, 2016 @08:00PM (#12510907)
Yeah, advice I heard from parents and teachers countless times growing up.

"Memorize this." "Don't quit." "Keep trying."

Then I had to repeat verbatim whatever it was I was supposed to memorize, whether a reading selection, scales on an instrument, or multiplication tables. I didn't get to move forward till I got it. And I didn't get to choose what I studied.

Seems like we need more of this today.