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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by jbob2000 on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @01:55PM (#12445522)
Your comparison to Tuft and Needle is not very good. Everybody hates mattress stores for their sleazy business practices; it's a given.

There's no unanimous hatred for Slack, however, so your ads come off as pretty ignorant. We use slack at my company and have 0 problems with it. I am perfectly aware of its limitations and I am fine with them.

Also, I have to download a desktop client to use Ryver? 2004 called and wants their software back.

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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by gkoberger on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @01:59PM (#12445555)
Tuft and Needle also doesn't call out anyone by name. Nobody would care if Ryver's ads said "Chat programs are greedy," rather than specifically naming a beloved company.

And it's made worse since Ryver just seems to be an (inferior) Slack clone.

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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by sidlls on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @01:57PM (#12445541)
Actually I would find a desktop client more appealing. I'm not a fan of browsers-as-poorly-functioning-userlands-on-userlands that seems to be the modern fad.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by pavel_lishin on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:00PM (#12445566)
But Slack's desktop client is excellent. Furthermore, Ryver makes a big point about guest access - and a browser client would be much better for guests than a dedicated client they may only use once.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by eli on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:04PM (#12445598)
HipChat has both: a web client and a native windows/mac client.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by Bartweiss on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:15PM (#12445686)
Slack also - you can use it in browser. Most people don't want to, but I've seen some people say that they do so much work there that it's nice to have a browser tab visible.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by pavel_lishin on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:09PM (#12445639)
And per-channel guest access, too.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Thursday September 08, 2016 @11:07PM (#12459410)
We run in every browser and also have native apps for every platform.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by eli on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:00PM (#12445570)
Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack. I can understand not everyone wants to use a native app, but it sure would be a nice option.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by Kadin on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:23PM (#12446423)
> Yeah, not having a desktop client was one of the reasons we went with Hipchat over Slack.

Is Slack's desktop client a new thing? I'm relatively new to it, but they certainly have one now.

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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by jaegerpicker on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @05:26PM (#12447879)
Slack has a native desktop client and has for a long time.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by daxorid on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:22PM (#12446402)
Or, better yet, irssi in persistent tmux. Slack really can't compare to terminal irc clients in terms of usability and flexibility.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:26PM (#12446474)
We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by p4wnc6 on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @02:01PM (#12445573)
Agreed. Desktop apps are generally so much better.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:27PM (#12446493)
Most of our users do use the native apps. Some prefer the browser though.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Thursday September 08, 2016 @04:18PM (#12456886)
Of course we run in all browsers. Also have native apps for windows, mac, linux, ios and android. 2004 never did call.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Thursday September 08, 2016 @11:05PM (#12459404)
No, of course we run in a browser as well as windows, mac, linux, ios, android. 2004 hasn't called.
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Re:Ryver: Why we run negative ads against Slack by patsullivan on Wednesday September 07, 2016 @03:26PM (#12446463)
We run in every browser very well. Have a Mac, Windows, Linux, iOS and Android client.
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