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Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by abduhl on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:25PM (#12406600)
Sounds like SpaceX just killed multiple deals for this company. Could someone who knows about this kind of stuff (I assume this subset of the population is small) comment on whether there is recourse against SpaceX for losing the payload?
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by rayiner on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:48PM (#12406838)
The risk of this happening was almost certainly accounted for in the contractual relationship.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by JumpCrisscross on Thursday September 01, 2016 @01:22PM (#12407144)
Quite possibly with a termination clause. Insurance typically covers the cost of the satellite, not the cost of delaying time to revenue by what could end up being several months or years.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by X-Istence on Thursday September 01, 2016 @12:31PM (#12406661)
Unfortunately accidents happen, I have a feeling that some insurance company somewhere is going to end up paying for the damages...
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by thesimon on Thursday September 01, 2016 @04:31PM (#12408638)
Not covered by launch insurance (https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/771409425475174400), will be interesting to see if there is an insurance to cover that.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by pavelrub on Thursday September 01, 2016 @04:38PM (#12408693)
Of course it's not covered by launch insurance - it happened during the pre-launch stage. It was covered by marine cargo insurance.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by jsmthrowaway on Thursday September 01, 2016 @03:54PM (#12408346)
Private launches are required to carry insurance in order to receive a license; I looked it up when the Orbital rocket had a similar RUD, and the government had mandated something like $140 million or so between government property contingency and general liability, if I recall.

Edit: Yeah, here's Orbital's (I can't find SpaceX's): https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/as... -- last two pages. It looks like they revised this license recently for their return to flight, too?

Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by gumby on Thursday September 01, 2016 @01:32PM (#12407237)
It's possible to insure against business risk as well as asset risk, though it's usually not worth the premium. Though I've never been in the space business I would be surprised if it were not common for launches.
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Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by brogrammernot on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:18PM (#12407625)
There is zero need for your tone towards a user asking a simple question. He didn't know, he asked in a nice manner and it was an innocent question. How do you expect someone to learn or be comfortably asking questions on HN if they're told they aren't a "literate adult" for not knowing the specifics of insurance coverage within a high risk business sector.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by johnnycarcin on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:36PM (#12407766)
Not all launches are insured. One of the largest satellite TV companies in America claims to have launched their first satellite without insurance because they were so strapped for cash.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by cm2012 on Thursday September 01, 2016 @02:38PM (#12407778)
Insurance was only for post ignition, there will be no insurance payout for this accident.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by Animats on Thursday September 01, 2016 @03:01PM (#12407963)
Anyone know if the satellite owner took out pre-launch and transit insurance? That's a separate insurance cover from launch insurance. Satellite launch insurance starts at normal ignition and usually ends with the satellite in the desired orbit.[1]

[1] https://www.marsh.com/uk/industries/aviation-aerospace/space...

Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by pavelrub on Thursday September 01, 2016 @04:39PM (#12408700)
This is false. Pre-launch accidents are covered by marine cargo insurance.
Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by agildehaus on Thursday September 01, 2016 @03:04PM (#12407987)
Elon was talking of SpaceX's insurance. Read: SpaceX won't be recovering the cost of the launch vehicle or the payload.

Spacecomm likely has their own insurance. Hopefully more details on this will emerge.

Re:A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket has exploded at Cape Canaveral by sigmar on Thursday September 01, 2016 @03:01PM (#12407964)
source?