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Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by diego_moita on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:43AM (#12313360)
> the Rio Olympics as a whole seem to be a mess,

As a Brazilian let me ask this: because Munich 72 and Atlanta 96 where so much better ? (hint: no terrorism in Rio)

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by whack on Thursday August 18, 2016 @01:08PM (#12314332)
Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't.

Many respected "first world" journalists have also commented on the same pattern of people from richer countries condescending to poorer countries that host the Olympics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion/brazils-uplifting-...

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by tedunangst on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:47PM (#12315762)
Black September attacking the Olympic village was a less predictable event than many of the problems occurring in Rio, like chlorinating the diving pool with the wrong chemicals.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by Dylan16807 on Friday August 19, 2016 @06:06AM (#12318999)
>Not sure why Diego is being downvoted so much, when parent who made an equally incendiary comment wasn't.

Because "tu quoque" is a lot more obnoxious than just calling something bad.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by drivingmenuts on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:52AM (#12313458)
Apples to oranges. Both incidents you cite were third-parties directly trying to stage political disruptions by causing death and destruction.

Rio is the government and other sponsors just plain failing to follow thru on commitments.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by diego_moita on Thursday August 18, 2016 @12:02PM (#12313567)
This is plain and simple prejudice and bullshit. The government has been following thru on commitments.

* When Rio was announced people said the venues wouldn't be ready on time. They were.

* When zika broke out people predicted an Olympic pandemic. Then came southern hemisphere winter and you're more likely to get zika in Florida than Rio.

* When media discovered pollution in Guanabara Bay people asked for cancellation of events out of health concerns. No event was cancelled and no evidence of health hazards.

* when a chemical imbalance turned a swimming pool green people called for cancellation. It turned out to be harmless algae.

* when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel.

All of this is a continuation of a pattern. Rich countries freaked out with the Olympics in Beijing and Sochi too. Rio would have to endure the same.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by rbritton on Thursday August 18, 2016 @12:13PM (#12313717)
> * when American swimmers claimed to be robbed a media uproar denounced a security chaos. Turns out they lied to hide a visit to a brothel.

Do you have a reference for this? I'm aware of the inconsistencies with the stories in this situation, but I've never seen a brothel mentioned anywhere.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by no_cake on Thursday August 18, 2016 @01:28PM (#12314546)
I believe he is talking about this. Still, no brothel mentioned. http://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/olympics/2016/08/18/...
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by PhantomGremlin on Friday August 19, 2016 @12:55AM (#12318029)
Do you have a reference for this?

He's conflating two separate events. It was the basketball players not the swimmers who "accidentally" visited a brothel: http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/05/team-usa-basketball-players-br...

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by sooheon on Thursday August 18, 2016 @02:33PM (#12315166)
And Brazilians continue to boo foreign athletes. To the point of tears. As a nation of sports fans and as hosts, that is the face they choose to show the world: booing their guests in athletic competition.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by praneshp on Thursday August 18, 2016 @02:54PM (#12315313)
Booing happens everywhere. A lot of the people complaining on reddit are Americans, and American sports are quite partisan. Elite athletes competing for silver at the Olympics should be able to handle booing.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by sooheon on Thursday August 18, 2016 @08:50PM (#12317305)
Maybe, they should be able to handle some booing. Doesn't make it appropriate behaviour to force them to go through it, as hosts. It's an event whose entire premise is to rise above partisanship in the name of sportsmanship, we can expect a little more sportsmanship from the crowds too.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by praneshp on Thursday August 18, 2016 @10:50PM (#12317680)
Nobody is forcing anyone to go through it (except North Korea maybe?). If an athlete cannot handle the booing, he is welcome to skip the Olympics. I agree that the whole thing would be so much better if the crowds were nice, but it is what it is.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by sooheon on Friday August 19, 2016 @01:21AM (#12318120)
I didn't mean parent countries were forcing their athletes, I meant Brazil, as the host, are not living up to reasonable expectations on hosts of an international sporting event. You say it as if all athletes were given due notice, and agreed that they would take racist, partisan abuse. The crowds are uniquely, surprisingly bad. The answer to this isn't "you're welcome to leave", that does not deflect blame from the way Brazilians have been behaving. And just saying "it is what it is" downplays just how far below basic standards of decency such booing is.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Thursday August 18, 2016 @04:25PM (#12316075)
> Booing happens everywhere.

And right here too.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by threesixandnine on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:26PM (#12315622)
So pretty much the same as US Open and Wimbledon for example when US or UK is competing against foreign players? Or French Open? I can go on if you want...

Booing is not something invented and exclusive to third world countries or Brazil for that matter.

Hypocrisy much?

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by sooheon on Thursday August 18, 2016 @08:42PM (#12317276)
Not actually American or British, not sure why you assume I must be western first world and accuse me of hypocrisy based on that.

In any case, that fact that booing has happened in previous events I can accept, but that seems a false equivalence. I'm pointing out that to my knowledge, this is the first time it has happened with such vigour and insistence at a world wide sporting event. What is the point of the Olympics if not to overcome partisanship in the name of good sportsmanship? A lot of the Brazilian fans' behaviour seems to come from the worst of futbol hooliganism, which no-one could seriously defend, and their booing of Argentinians in particular shows an unwillingness to rise above regional rivalries even for the Olympics.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by Angostura on Friday August 19, 2016 @06:13AM (#12319032)
Booing at Wimbledon? Really?
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by 0xdeadbeefbabe on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:01PM (#12315379)
Well it is a competition, and not being citizens of the USA they aren't obliged to be politically correct.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by maxerickson on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:28PM (#12315637)
Have you been to a US sporting event? If not, I can assure you that those crowds don't feel any obligation to be politically correct.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by Pinatubo on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:10PM (#12315463)
The condemnation of the behavior of the Brazilian crowds is international.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by threesixandnine on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:27PM (#12315630)
Not really.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by Pinatubo on Thursday August 18, 2016 @05:08PM (#12316341)
Even Olympics officials have said the conduct of the Brazilian fans is unacceptable. If you're not just trolling you can search out some quotes yourself.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by threesixandnine on Thursday August 18, 2016 @05:39PM (#12316510)
Olympics officials does not equal "international". But please do show me that international condemnation of Brazilian fans. Or is 2% of the world considered international and only right and righteous today? I already know the answer but do go ahead.

I find it quite disturbing accusing Brazilians of "booing" at sports event when you could and can see this in events such as US Open, Wimbledon and other "clean and gentlemany" sports when the opponent is from some other country than US or UK. Let's not get into more "dirtier" sports now where booing is de facto standard.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by Pinatubo on Thursday August 18, 2016 @05:50PM (#12316558)
> But please do show me that international condemnation of Brazilian fans.

What exactly do you want to see from me that you can't find yourself?

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by frogpelt on Thursday August 18, 2016 @03:57PM (#12315855)
Honestly, if you are such a fierce competitor that you can make it to the Olympics, how are hostile fans even an issue?

Unless there was violence why would you even care?

It seems like the true competitors eat that stuff up. Is it just the difference between professionals and amateurs?

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by rayvd on Thursday August 18, 2016 @04:33PM (#12316124)
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by jessaustin on Thursday August 18, 2016 @05:35PM (#12316482)
It should be like the first rule for brothel customers: don't hold a press conference to talk about what happened that night!
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by shostack on Thursday August 18, 2016 @11:59AM (#12313531)
I think there are a lot of differences here in terms of the level of blatant corruption, extreme disrespect shown by the Brazilian fans, insane crime reports, Zika, etc.

There's a reason the /r/apocalympics subteddit is so popular.

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by hamax on Thursday August 18, 2016 @12:05PM (#12313613)
Apocalympics subreddit is so popular because people really like to feel superior.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by dominotw on Thursday August 18, 2016 @12:30PM (#12313932)
I think they were great. Brazil did a great job given the circumstances. Boo-ing was the only thing that could have been totally avoided.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by goodcanadian on Thursday August 18, 2016 @09:07PM (#12317365)
I'm no expert, but it seems to me that the booing is mostly down to different cultural expectations (i.e. Brazilians don't necessarily see it as disrespectful):

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-37026844

Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by falsestprophet on Thursday August 18, 2016 @04:01PM (#12315886)
Not having a terror attack is a pretty low bar.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by cylinder on Thursday August 18, 2016 @07:34PM (#12317010)
One Atlanta could not meet.
Re:Was There a Problem with the Rio Pool? by maxerickson on Thursday August 18, 2016 @12:22PM (#12313825)
no terrorism in Rio

You must not be a bathroom door.