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Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by VLM on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:16AM (#12297583)
Something kind of similar goes on in the produce aisle with bags of apples vs individual apples.

Bags of apples have a very high percent mass loss when peeled and rotted parts cut off and served into apple pies or apple sauce or canned into brandied apples and are very small making a huge amount of labor to peel like ten mini apples per pound.

Individual apples are large and about can select externally flawless apples, and the surface area to volume scaling means for a given amount of finished product your compost pile will have maybe half the compost. Also the labor demand is immensely lower, it takes just as long to peel a baby apple from a bag that smaller than a baseball as it goes to peel a freakishly large individual apple thats bigger than a softball.

Solely on price per pound, bags of apples are mystifyingly cheaper than individual apples per pound, but in terms of final product and factoring in the labor annoyance of prep time, individual apples are often a much better deal.

I suppose much as there are people shocked that I find applesauce making and brandied apple canning fun and recreational and stress reducing, there probably exist people who are shocked that everyone doesn't find apple peeling and coring to be meditative and chill. For people who enjoy spending hours peeling tiny little apples, a 5 pound bag of little apples must be pure joy to them.

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by maxerickson on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:36AM (#12297708)
A lot of people call the bagged apples hand apples and eat them without any preparation.

Extensive rotten parts on the bagged apples would also be a klaxon call not to buy produce from that grocer.

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by pjc50 on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @11:27AM (#12298055)
Cooking apples are different varieties, anyway. The best reason to process apples at home is if you have them fresh off the tree.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by maxerickson on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @12:34PM (#12298576)
For US common apples, Braeburn and McIntosh both straddle the line between cooking and hand apples.

(I think they are both terrible hand apples, but my preference for crispness overwhelms other considerations)

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by drunken-serval on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:37PM (#12299555)
Braeburn pairs well with cheddar cheese. :D
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by 3pt14159 on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:35AM (#12297706)
I buy the smaller apples precisely because there is more skin to flesh. So if I eat two small apples this means more fiber and a little bit more potassium vs if I'd eaten one large apple. Plus I find the flesh is usually more flavourful and less mealy.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by brendoncrawford on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:43AM (#12297756)
The smaller apples seem to be more flavorful as well.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by robertcope on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @12:02PM (#12298326)
This is why I buy them. In general, I think small fruit tastes better.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by gmac on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:46AM (#12297783)
Maybe also more pesticides and more wax, unless you buy organic.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by jcranmer on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @12:33PM (#12298565)
Don't worry, organic means you get only organic pesticides, no synthetic ones. And some organic pesticides are more toxic than synthetic ones (which actually makes a lot of sense when you think about--those evil chemical companies have a vested interest in making things that are safe for humans but unsafe for insects; Mother Nature does not).

Worth pointing out, though, that you're quite unlikely to see any health effects from any pesticide residue in either case.

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by dragonwriter on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @12:01PM (#12298315)
> Maybe also more pesticides and more wax, unless you buy organic.

In which case it also means more wax [0] and more pesticides [1].

[0] just not petroleum-based

[1] but only "organic" pesticides

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by morsch on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @04:53PM (#12300562)
Maybe in the US. In Germany (and I assume many other places), organic apples are not waxed, and typically don't have any residual pesticides on them.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by oftenwrong on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @11:58AM (#12298277)
Depends on where you are. In the US, "organic" apples can be sprayed with pesticides and coated with "wax" (actual wax or other wax-like coatings).
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by blakesterz on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:20AM (#12297601)
That reminds me of the pistachios WITH shells Vs. pistachios without shells. A bag without the shells is way more expensive per pound, but from what I've read it ends up being a bit cheaper per nut because those shells weigh something. Plus those things are just hard to get out of the darn shells sometimes.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by nathanvanfleet on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:32AM (#12297692)
I would say that you should pay a bit extra so you don't have the emotional cost of having that one pistachio you couldn't possibly open.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by wavefunction on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:47AM (#12297789)
I've opened that pistachio with force. You're better off leaving it closed!

(It seems from my exhaustive studies that pistachios that "won't open" aren't worth opening.)

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by erikcw on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @11:59AM (#12298298)
Agreed. To me the pistachio that can't be opened is equivalent to the clam that doesn't open in the pot. Now you won't get sick from the pistachio, but the quality is never the same.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by raldi on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @04:58PM (#12300594)
That's an old wives' tale. The clams, mussels, etc that are most resistant to opening are the ones that were in the best health, and thus the safest ones to eat.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by erikcw on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @12:08AM (#12302449)
Source?
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by raldi on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @12:24AM (#12302504)
Just google [unopened clams safe]. It's all over the Internet.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by nathanvanfleet on Wednesday August 17, 2016 @11:06PM (#12310179)
Or the one you just barely fit your nails in, and try to pull it apart?
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by criddell on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:04PM (#12299283)
Remember pink pistachios? I used to buy them all the time and the other day I realized that I haven't seem them in years.

This scene isn't going to make sense to future viewers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-TCvaNuKNQ

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:21AM (#12297605)
And the shells harbor mold. I'm allergic to pistachios, but apparently its the mold that is the real problem.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by blt on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @01:27PM (#12298997)
OTOH, the shells help deter you from eating a pound of delicious pistachios in one sitting.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by wadetandy on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @02:50PM (#12299659)
Sure don't.
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by rhizome on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @04:15PM (#12300310)
thumb-divots represent!
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by arprocter on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @05:26PM (#12300766)
In a bag of nuts with shells there are always a few which lose their shells in transit and they never taste as good to me.

Could it be some ancient hunter gatherer mental reward system thing?

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @10:22AM (#12297616)
My grocer's bag of apples is not 50% waste per pound. Its often the same apples in a bag. Volume discount. I suppose that just means they're all too expensive...
Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by gruez on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @04:04PM (#12300231)
I think you misread the parent's post.

>and the surface area to volume scaling means for a given amount of finished product your compost pile will have maybe half the compost

He means that the big apples have half the waste compared to small apples.

Re:Are Rotisserie Chickens a Bargain? by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday August 16, 2016 @04:06PM (#12300242)
"Bags of apples have a very high percent mass loss when peeled and rotted parts cut off"