Re:Twitter's Fucked
by exolymph on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @12:30PM
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What other people choose do with their privately-owned platforms does not limit anyone's freedom of speech, as the law currently stands.
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Re:Twitter's Fucked
by MustardTiger on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @12:40PM
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You are confusing freedom of speech with "the right to freedom of speech". Me restricting your freedom of speech is still restricting your freedom of speech, it is just legal and does not violate the first amendment. The government restricting your freedom of speech is not legal, and violates the first amendment.
what is "freedom of speech" outside the context of law?
does this book contend that there is a thing such as "freedom of speech" which exists outside law? what is the reasoning?
Re:Twitter's Fucked
by ivraatiems on Wednesday July 27, 2016 @01:06PM
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You're right, but it does show an endemic lack of respect for the concept of free speech.
No, it very definitely limits freedom of speech, it just fails to infringe the constitution.
And a "privately-owned platform" that is open to the public, used by a nontrivial amount of people, advertised by the owners as a place for public discussion, quoted in the media, etc etc etc isn't so "private" anymore.
Freedom is not about the law.
conversely, it could be argued that freedom is only about the law.
> it could be argued that freedom is only about the law
Hmm. I'd like to hear those arguments, since by itself the notion doesn't sound particularly compelling.
yes, really.
Except online, all platforms are privately owned. Hence you often get de facto censorship. You can technically say something not allowed on those platforms, but then find there's no way to draw any attention to this content/those views. It's like living in a company town where anything the administration don't like isn't allowed.
It's a problem with freedom of speech and private property in general, and why some people have considered the idea of treating large social platforms as closer to utilities rather than businesses.