Morality: principles concerning the distinction between
right and wrong or good and bad behavior.
Let's say that violence is considered inherently wrong, that's morality. But it's an easily justified stance that allows us to legislate against murder, rape, theft, assault, and other crimes.But non-violent crimes, then, or those that don't violate property or privacy? Who says you have a right to either of those? On what basis do they justify that position?
Morality and ethics are the very basis of legal frameworks. The question is, what do we consider moral/ethical and what is worth criminal/civil punishment versus social ostracization.
Ethics is a set of rules about what one person can do to another person. Is this act harmful to another person?
Morality is a set of rules about what a person can do to their own self. Is this act harmful to me?
There's definitely a place for morality, but perhaps a better way to put it is that there should be no place for any non-utilitarian morality in any legal framework.
Like the fact certain types can be used to basically justify anything the majority likes, regardless of whether it's really fair on anyone else. You could argue banning various social and religious views is acceptable as a utilitarian, so long as the majority of the population would be happier with them banned.
> "No, because the suffering of the women will inevitably be greater" IMO, this is obviously true. Why wouldn't it be the real reason?
Yes, that really is the reason it is wrong. Men aren't utility monsters, the existence (even hypothetically) of utility monsters is doubtful, and it is harmful to optimize a system of morality for situations that have an infinitismal probability of being realized.
is that something you actually support, or am I misinterpreting?
All moral questions.