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Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard by jonknee on Friday June 17, 2016 @02:41PM (#11924646)
Tap to pay isn't what's slow in the US, it is the chipped cards that need to be inserted into a POS device. For whatever reason they are absurdly slow. That should be great news for NFC payment services though, Apple/Android pay seem like speed demons in comparison.
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard by mschuster91 on Friday June 17, 2016 @04:45PM (#11925438)
> it is the chipped cards that need to be inserted into a POS device.

Weird. In Germany, it's usually very, very fast (recently, using my Number26 CC, payment in three seconds including PIN entry, and ten seconds later I got the push notification on my phone).

But that may also very well be because it's rare here to see outdated terminals. Most retail chains change their card terminals every two or three years, because they listen to their customers who actively demand speedy transactions. Oh, and because stores usually don't own the terminals but rent them (cheapest solutions are at < 20€/month and terminal). Downside: CC fees for merchants can range up to 4%, most of it goes to the CC providers.

Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard by thesimon on Friday June 17, 2016 @05:22PM (#11925652)
>CC fees for merchants can range up to 4%, most of it goes to the CC providers.

It mostly seems smaller merchants simply don't switch their acquirer to get cheaper rates and complain about "high costs". FWIW, credit cards are capped at 0.3% interchange (which is what the bank gets), debit cards at 0.2% since last year. Scheme fees for MasterCard/Visa are peanuts and even AmEx doesn't cost 4%.

For example see https://www.cashforless.de.

Visa/MasterCard credit and debit 0.98% German debit (girocard) 0.25%

Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard by mschuster91 on Friday June 17, 2016 @05:41PM (#11925738)
That would certainly explain why chains like REWE actually set up their own card acquirer... and yes, with the cheap terminals I actually referred to C4L (disclaimer: not related by work, just a happy customer).
Re:Home Depot Files Antitrust Lawsuit Against Visa, MasterCard by jonknee on Friday June 17, 2016 @06:51PM (#11926024)
> But that may also very well be because it's rare here to see outdated terminals. Most retail chains change their card terminals every two or three years, because they listen to their customers who actively demand speedy transactions.

The only terminals in the US that take the chipped cards are brand new (because the cards themselves are new and the deadline to accept them isn't quite here yet). I don't know why they are so slow, but they are all brand new machines.