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Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by taylodl on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:45PM (#11670919)
With the elimination of the Fairness Doctrine how can Facebook be held accountable for anything? I'm not defending Facebook's alleged actions, I'm asking how could those alleged actions be in violation of federal law?
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by mikeyouse on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:12PM (#11671108)
Hilariously, this is what Thune had to say about the Fairness Doctrine when he sponsored an amendment to prevent the FCC from stepping in on talk radio;

> Our amendment would have helped preserve the vibrant marketplace of ideas we have today in our media. Our support for freedom of conscience and freedom of speech means that we must support the rights granted to even those with whom we disagree. Giving power to a few to regulate fairness in the media is a recipe for an Orwellian disaster.

So it's an Orwellian disaster for the fairness doctrine to extend to talk radio, but he's okay with the government threatening a private internet company to make sure there's enough conservative opinion being displayed? Nice scruples.

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by Torgo on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @09:16PM (#11671981)
Rush Limbaugh used to say that talk radio didn't need "equal time" protection, because talk radio was "equal time" to the entire rest of the newsmedia. And, having grown up in the 80's, I think he was right.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by specialist on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @08:24PM (#11671780)
Freedom of speech (in the US) online shouldn't be taken for granted.

During the aughts, treating political and opinions blogs as donations in kind, and therefore subject to campaign finance rules, was pushed pretty hard.

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by legohead on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:49PM (#11670953)
Also, has this senator asked the same of CNN/MSNBC/Fox/etc?
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by cft on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:56PM (#11670999)
The expectation of FB is very different. A normal user would assume that the ranking is based on a news link popularity: sharing, clicks or some other user metric.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by pj_mukh on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @07:24PM (#11671482)
Most Fox news viewers fervently believe Fox news is fair and balanced. FYI. AFAIK, masquerading as bias-less is not illegal.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by specialist on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @08:32PM (#11671813)
Both lying and obfuscation are completely legal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre#Whistleblower_lawsui...

This article helped me to better understand some of what's going on:

"Agnotology ... is the study of culturally induced ignorance or doubt..."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnotology

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by techthroway443 on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:00PM (#11671025)
Yep, and they came out with a report to let normal users know that's not how it works.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by tristanj on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:14PM (#11671118)
Which report is this? I've seen the Facebook press release, I've seen Tom Stocky's post, but I've never seen this report. Source?

And the biggest issue I have, is that as far as I know, from January 2014 to present, Facebook's help page was written in a way to mislead users on how trending topics actually work [1]. From reading that help description, most users, including me, imagined Trending topics to work as /u/cft described. Yet that page has no mention that every single trending article on Facebook is curated by a human. How is that not an enormous oversight?

[1] https://www.facebook.com/help/737806312958641 How does Facebook determine what topics are trending?

> Trending shows you topics that have recently become popular on Facebook. The topics you see are based on a number of factors including engagement, timeliness, Pages you've liked and your location.

> On a computer, the topics are grouped into 5 categories: All News, Politics, Science and Technology, Sports and Entertainment.

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by botterworkshop on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:42PM (#11671274)
I disagree. A normal user would assume their network would influence trending news.

What if a larger proportion of Facebook users are younger, which typically leans left, and therefore left news trends more? Oh, wait it is that way...

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by jonathankoren on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @09:40PM (#11672061)
And it is.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by mc32 on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @08:26PM (#11671790)
It's not the same because neither one of those is essentially the only global news network whereas FB, and vkontakte to a much smaller degree, is the only social network with news which has a global virtually monopolistic shop.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by billytetrud on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:57PM (#11671009)
Cft might have a point, if facebook is essentially tricking people into thinking content is unbiased, that might be considered fraud.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by epimetheus on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @05:59PM (#11671022)
You mean like Fox news, "Fair and Balanced?"
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by Wintamute on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:11PM (#11671099)
Facebook is trying to become a defacto medium for inter-personal communication globally. It's more akin to a telephone company not handing out phone numbers to people it deems "undesirable". Fox is one-way media. Quite different.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by tanker on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:28PM (#11671201)
I disagree. I like the analogy of a magazine or newspaper publishing letters to the editor. There is a two way aspect, but clearly the editors choose what to publish.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by slackstation on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @07:41PM (#11671574)
No, the newspaper or magazine has clear editorial. It's very clear that this is what Fox News or The New York Times or Wall Street Journal is saying.

People think that Facebook is a place where their friends, and family post things. By extension, they think that Facebook trends are just "what's popular" not, what Facebook as a company is saying or endorsing.

No one holds Facebook responsible for a topic that is trending. Actually, I take that back, a bunch of people do but, they are dismissed out of hand as idiots.

Facebook really doesn't want to be in the publishing of ideas business. Their responsibility would be higher.

The air shouldn't have an opinion on the sound traveling through it.

Facebook has the means to manipulate ideas at scale. They have researched it. We are just supposed to blindly trust them because of a vaguely worded Facebook post? A post where to respond, I have to log in and identify myself?

I mean, it's hard to not to see this as Orwellian or just plain stupid. Other than choosing (and then doubling down on) PHP, I don't see Facebook as run by stupid people.

Either they think this thing will just blow over and no one will care. This much trust in something that isn't transparent is just bad for democracy. Facebook isn't the TV station, it's the airwaves. They have to be held to different standards.

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by chillwaves on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @07:04PM (#11671390)
There is no law against lying on the news.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by epimetheus on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @08:19PM (#11671756)
Serious question, is there really laws against social media sites or aggregate sites putting a bias in what they choose to display? I'm not sure I see why this argument is valid.
Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @06:09PM (#11671085)
Of existing statute? Probably not. But there could be a push to subject social networks to the Equal Time Rule [1].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-time_rule

Re:Senator Seeks Answers from Facebook on Political Censorin... by paulmd on Tuesday May 10, 2016 @07:36PM (#11671542)
It's an open question whether cable networks (like those that carry internet) could be subject to the Equal Time Rule. Publically-licensed airwaves have traditionally been considered fundamentally different from a privately-owned cable system.