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Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by mythz on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:19PM (#11330979)
What success? iPad destroyed Surface sales by an order of magnitude last quarter 16.1M to 1.6M.

Even the iPad Pro alone outsold all MS Surface products despite only being introduced midway through the holiday quarter.

Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by Someone1234 on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:43PM (#11331218)
According to IDC:

> We believe Apple sold just over two million iPad Pros while Microsoft sold around 1.6 million Surface devices

So 2m Vs. 1.6m, the remaining 14.1m devices are an entirely different class at an entirely different price-point.

The iPad Pro did outsell the Surface line in one quarter, but it is worth noting that the Surface Pro 4 was a minor upgrade, whereas the iPad Pro was a brand new class of device for Apple.

Where Microsoft has been making in-roads with the Surface Pro line in particular is corporate/enterprise ultrabooks. The iPad, even the "Pro" doesn't have an answer to that.

Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by mythz on Monday March 21, 2016 @04:11PM (#11331476)
This is some warped stats findings. You want to divide iPad sales because it's in a different class yet compare them with all Surface tablets and Hybrids combined but still elect not to include MacBooks in this separate class.

Apparently iPad Pro and iPads are in a different price point but the current Surface product lines: Surface 3, Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book which are nearly doubled in cost respectively, are not. Then apparently an iPad with a larger screen is a brand new "entirely different" class, but Surface Tablet and Surface Books are not.

Then you go on about the launch quarter like it's the only reason why iPad Pro outsold all Surfaces, but both iPhone and iPads go on to outsell their launch quarters in the next year - this is what you get when you grow sales.

I'm surprised you didn't top it off by saying that Apple deliberately withheld introducing the iPad Pro to midway through the quarter so they could sell more units in that quarter.

Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by ultramancool on Monday March 21, 2016 @08:06PM (#11333352)
People buy the Surface to run the desktop Windows apps though - which is something Apple can't offer. If we were talking Surface RT exclusively it'd be different...
Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by niels_olson on Tuesday March 22, 2016 @01:57AM (#11334686)
Drop your favorite Windows version into VirtualBox on your macbook.
Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by randyrand on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:36PM (#11331162)
Bad comparison IMO. The tablet market is distinct from the productivity tablet market. What percentage of those ipad are replacing laptops?
Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by Elessar on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:42PM (#11331209)
It's not a bad comparison.

The question is why is Apple not diving into a "productivity machine" like the Surface. The answer is that the iPad Pro is selling better than the Surface. That is: Apple isn't building the Surface because they built something that sells better.

Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by mythz on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:44PM (#11331228)
> What percentage of those ipad are replacing laptops?

Think about what you're saying, why would replacing laptops be a priority for Apple if they can outsell hybrids 10 to 1 by focusing on making a great consumption device?

Apple and Google are focused on the mobile computing platform of the future which already outsells pcs with the gap widening every year.

Instead Apple uses their OSX product lines to compete in the pc market.

Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by FussyZeus on Monday March 21, 2016 @03:43PM (#11331222)
Who's talking about laptops? OP brought up that the iPad Pro is a reaction to the Surface, then the reply said that the Pro destroyed the Surface in sales. This has nothing to do with laptops, even if the sales on productivity tablets are pathetic, the Pro still seems to be winning those pathetic sales.
Re:iPad Pro – 9.7-inch by WayneBro on Wednesday March 23, 2016 @11:13AM (#11345188)
Have all iOS tablets outsold all Windows tablets though, or just the one brand (Surface)?