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Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by jellicle on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @07:31PM (#11171474)
If you're paranoid, making a complete copy of all your secrets on some remote Apple or Google "cloud" where the government can get at it trivially is the exact opposite of what you want to be doing.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by sb057 on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @09:20PM (#11171939)
If you're paranoid, you don't have a cell phone.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by ska on Thursday February 25, 2016 @06:56AM (#11173831)
Or you have several, and send them on trips without you, etc.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by sounds on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @07:36PM (#11171498)
Well, yeah, if you back it up with a 3rd party backup tool, you are trusting the 3rd party.

I recommend you make a backup to your laptop, which you then encrypt manually. That way the trust model is: you trust yourself. Then you can do whatever you want with the encrypted file. Apple's iCloud is perfectly fine at this point.

The real challenge is to find a way to restore that backup, because you have to be on a computer you trust. If you decrypt the backup on a "loaner" laptop, your security is broken.

If you decrypt the backup on your personal laptop but the laptop has a hidden keylogger installed by the TSA or TAO, your security is broken.

It would be necessary to backup the phone on the _phone_ _itself_. Then manually encrypt the file (easy to do). Then upload to iCloud. At this time, no such app exists for iOS.

Since you plan to restore the backup to the phone anyway, it's no problem to decrypt a file on the phone before using it for the restore.

Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by baddox on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @09:35PM (#11171988)
> I recommend you make a backup to your laptop, which you then encrypt manually.

You mean your laptop that was manufactured by a 3rd party, with a network card that was manufactured by a 3rd party? And you're using encryption software that, even if it's open source, you probably aren't qualified to code review. I'm not downplaying the benefit of being careful, but unfortunately you can keep doing that pretty much forever.

Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by grecy on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @11:21PM (#11172370)
All laptops and cameras entering the US are subject to search and seizure.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by hutattedonmyarm on Thursday February 25, 2016 @04:50AM (#11173383)
Well you can make an encrypted Backup via iTunes (that would involve firing up iTunes though shudders)
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by nevir on Thursday February 25, 2016 @12:36AM (#11172584)
There's a reason Google decided to encrypt all communication between machines inside their datacenters.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by lorenzhs on Thursday February 25, 2016 @04:55AM (#11173401)
Are you sure it's not just communication between data centres?
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by evgen on Thursday February 25, 2016 @02:28PM (#11177069)
Probably not. FB is doing the same thing. In most cases your app or service does not actually know if the remote service it is talking to is local or in another DC. Yes, you can find out if you need to, but that requires contacting another service and introduces some delay and latency. Use a service router to try to keep the calls local to a rack or a DC, but you know that if there are problems with local cells you might get routed across the country so start with the assumption that _all_ connections get encrypted even if the connection is to localhost.
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by katbyte on Thursday February 25, 2016 @05:48AM (#11173629)
backup ==> zip/rar => encrypt with pgp or whatever => split => upload various parts to different cloud storage providers => wipe device => pass checkpoint => download => combine => decrpy => uncompress => restore.

its not trivial, but its sure easy to do in this day and age.

Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by greggman on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @09:07PM (#11171900)
What data is likely on someone's phone that is not also in the cloud one way or another?
Re:Apple Is Said to Be Working on an iPhone Even It Can’t Hack by marssaxman on Wednesday February 24, 2016 @09:25PM (#11171955)
I wonder this too. The only personal data on my phone are my text and email messages. I'm not sure how other data would get onto the phone.