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Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by headgasket on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:49AM (#11133716)
I WANT TO SAY: thanks wired for the new anti-adblock campaign. You just saved me 10 minutes of my life reading about bee beheading hornets. Now back to programming.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by froh42 on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:52AM (#11134174)
Why would anbody pay $1/week for reading that article we were click-baited into?

By the way, what's the amount Wired would make on ads if I read that article? A few cents? That's probably what I'd pay given a good micropayment system for reading that single article. I'm not interested in a subscription (and even less in my personal data being in their database along with that subscription).

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by CaptSpify on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:16AM (#11133875)
Interesting. I didn't see anything like that. Maybe noscript = win?
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by egeozcan on Friday February 19, 2016 @12:03PM (#11134697)
If you're blocking their cookies, or blocking scripts (because they increment read articles count with js for some reason) then you don't feel a thing indeed. Also, it doesn't seem to detect DNS based blocking.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by DrScump on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:32PM (#11138408)
Same here.

One fun quote, though: "the tiny band of marauders can wipe out a colony of 30,000 bees in a few hours, a glut of beheadings that makes the French Revolution look like Dance Dance Revolution."

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by oconnore on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:21AM (#11133919)
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by otoburb on Friday February 19, 2016 @08:54AM (#11133426)
"[The European honey bee] hasn’t stumbled upon the swarm countermeasure, so the hornet scout inevitably marks a European bee nest and returns with its friends."

Given how devastatingly effective these hornets are, the honey bee swarming behaviour seems to be a completely "over-the-top" reaction that thankfully works for them, although the bees (surely?) have no idea why.

Have any beekeepers been successful teaching European (or any other type of) honey bees new, complex behaviours? If they have, how do newly acquired behavrioual patterns spread beyond the initial target hive?

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by j_m_b on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:28AM (#11133594)
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by WoodenChair on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:12AM (#11133515)
How do you go about "teaching European honey bees new, complex behaviors"?
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by otoburb on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:25AM (#11133577)
That's exactly what I'm wondering - whether there have been any instances of deliberate human-caused epigenetic changes in bees. In light of @ansible's sister comment that worker bees only live a few months, teaching or learning any new behaviour, let alone one as complex as recognizing and swarming an intruder to death, seems to be even more unlikely.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by Qworg on Friday February 19, 2016 @11:00AM (#11134236)
Bees are a eusocial organism. While individual bees are dumb/unable to understand their actions, as a whole, bees are remarkably intelligent.

Bees already swarm and kill intruders, but simply lack the understanding of how to bake the wasps. I think a cross breeding program may take care of that issue - but hybridization can bring other problems (see African bees mixing with European).

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by ansible on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:13AM (#11133522)
Uh, they're bees. The workers only live a few months. You're not going to "teach" them anything.

We'd be looking at genetic modification to get new instincts into a particular species of bee.

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by erikb on Friday February 19, 2016 @08:59AM (#11133447)
I just got "ad walled" by wired, putting a huge paywall like thing in front of the text talking about ad blockers. Anybody seen things like that? Certainly won't click the next wired link.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by arijun on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:59AM (#11133767)
I think it's their prerogative to say "either get served ads, become a paying member, or leave." I imagine they wont mourn the loss of someone who would have likely not brought them revenue in any form, ever.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by Symmetry on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:39AM (#11134056)
Part of the reason I use Addblock rather than another plugin is that I agree with their whole "acceptable adds" idea and I'm perfectly happy with adds if they aren't too annoying. But I wonder how many companies actually use that program?
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by arijun on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:03AM (#11133788)
That came off reading much more judgy than I had intended. I meant it's their prerogative in the same sense that serving the ads in first place was their prerogative, not that there is a moral imperative to listen when they do.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by erikb on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:49PM (#11138706)
Yeah. That's what I mean. People leave, they have no viewers anymore, everybody happy.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by arijun on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:05AM (#11133803)
If you have uBlock, advanced mode can block the script that puts up the adwall. Just click off the allowance of 3rd party scripts for the page.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by erikb on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:50PM (#11138710)
Thanks I'll try that one!
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by wdmeldon on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:04AM (#11133474)
Yup. Tried for a few seconds to add a custom blocking rule and then immediately left the page. I empathize with content creators, but this reeks of desperation.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by cglace on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:13AM (#11133855)
I don't know. I took the two seconds to unblock them. How would you have implemented it to look less desperate?
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by beedogs on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:00AM (#11133454)
Yep, looks like they've started doing it. There was a discussion about their adwall plans last week.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by eddyg on Friday February 19, 2016 @11:04AM (#11134273)
And of course the reaction was the Anti-Adblock Killer (AAK) list, which you can subscribe to in the blocker of your choice: http://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by doodpants on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:24AM (#11133573)
Using Firefox, I just reloaded the page and then hit the Reader View button before the popup came back.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by erikb on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:51PM (#11138713)
Also a great idea! Seldom used that feature until now.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by mchmr on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:31AM (#11133620)
It seems to be javascript. Disabling 1st-party scripts in uBlock Origin got rid of it for me.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by e40 on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:41AM (#11133665)
Disabling 1st-party scripts in uBlock Origin got rid of it for me.

I can't find this option. Where is it?

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by mchmr on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:05AM (#11133800)
If you open up add-ons find uBlock Origin, press the "go to dashboard" button the first page has a bunch of checkboxes. At the bottom of the first group there is a check box called "I am an advanced user ..." Check that and now you have a mini uMatrix in your uBlock Origin menu.

Global block/allow is the left column, local (to the current domain) block/allow is the right column. I always globally block 3rd party scripts and frames and locally allow things like ajax.google.com when sites are borked.

Apparently now I need to start locally blocking 1st party scripts on sites too because of shenanigans like this.

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by ccozan on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:58AM (#11133761)
it is actually uMatrix. I can conform that it works.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by skoczymroczny on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:06AM (#11133810)
No problem here, using Chrome + Ublock Origin
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by cottonseed on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:26AM (#11133585)
Same here, and same here.
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by pilom on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:24AM (#11133937)
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by S_A_P on Friday February 19, 2016 @10:19AM (#11133907)
There is a Nat Geo special called "Hornets from Hell" that shows video of the honey bee hug. It also gives some nightmare inducing close up footage of these things.

Signed a wasp phobic person

Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by 2bluesc on Friday February 19, 2016 @11:27AM (#11134431)
National Geo video on YT on same topic: https://youtu.be/2P7Q1ncgcoY
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by crikli on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:40AM (#11133659)
Sorta apropos: if you have not read The Bees give it a look, even if you're not one for fiction. This "group hug" is part of a key scene and other bee social behaviors make for a unique and fascinating novel. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FJ3CM7M
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by dovdov on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:03AM (#11133468)
Can we just drop wired.com indefinitely?
Re:The Huge, Bee-Decapitating Hornet That Can’t Survive Grou... by jpl56 on Friday February 19, 2016 @09:34AM (#11133636)
people who subscribe to the site would complain. Why not create a per-user "exclude list"? If I don't want to see posts hosted on Wired.com, I just add the domain in this list...