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Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by stale2002 on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:15PM (#11106041)
And to be honest, if the choice is between accepting a whole bunch of highly paid Google/Facebook engineers into the country who will pay lots of money in taxes, and accepting a bunch of "economic immigrants" who will cost more money than they contribute, I would accepted the Google engineers in a heartbeat.

My solution? Let anyone into the country as long as they can prove that they are receiving a salary of > 125,000$ /year. Or perhaps just create a fast lane immigration track for companies, where if they really really want someone to be let into the country, then they send the US government a $50k check, to skip everything, and get their VISA automatically approved.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by aNoob7000 on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:46PM (#11106278)
The H1-B issue is about pay and control. An H1-B to me is someone that is trapped because of the visa process and can't command better pay or work conditions. I'm not talking about sweatshop conditions, I'm just saying that it is harder to negotiate when you're under an H1-B visa.

I understand people are against "economic immigrants" right now, but last time I checked most of the people that passed through Ellis Island were poor and the United States managed to grow in the last 100 years.

The fantasy that the United States can just flourish with only highly educated people working in tech is not real. We also need people to cut our grass, work on our cars, and clean our hotel rooms.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by gorkemyurt on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:58PM (#11106353)
Transferring your H1-B is much easier than getting one..
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by dominotw on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:08PM (#11106423)
but it messes up you position in green card queue in many cases.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by mavelikara on Monday February 15, 2016 @09:01PM (#11107443)
No, it doesn't.

You can apply to a new green card via the new employer (or any potential employer too). Once you get through to the I-140 stage of your second GC again - provided that the new job is one similar to your previous one - you can use your same place-in-line in the GC as before.

The green card application can get stuck in the bureaucratic backlog for any number of reasons - for years. These delays messes up with your peace of mind in ways you can probably imagine. Internet is full of horror stories about these things. This prevents people from changing jobs, or making any long term plans about buying a house etc.

It is a long-standing request from many people stuck in GC backlogs to not have them go through the _unpredictable_ re-application process, when they switch jobs. This was hinted as part of President Obama's Executive Action on immigration reform.

In a memo[1] dated 11/20/2014, Jeh Johnson (Secretary of Dept. of Homeland Security) stated:

  As you know, our employment-based immigration system is
  afflicted with extremely long waits for immigrant visas, or 
  "green cards," due to relatively low green card numerical limits 
  established by Congress 24 years ago in 1990.
  ...
  To correct this problem, I hereby direct USCIS to take several 
  steps to modernize and improve the immigrant visa process.
But USCIS has not done anything to improve this situation yet. There is currently a draft rule from USCIS titled "Retention of EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 Immigrant Workers and Program Improvements Affecting High-Skilled Nonimmigrant Workers" [2] open for comments until Feb 29, 2016. I encourage everyone here to read and comment on this in the next few weeks. You can do it online by going to www.regulations.gov and searching for the eDocket number USCIS-2015-0008 [3].

[1] Executive Action: Support High-skilled Business and Workers - http://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/14_1120_...

[2] USCIS Seeks Comments on Proposed Rule Affecting Certain Employment-Based Immigrant and Nonimmigrant Visa Programs - https://www.uscis.gov/news/uscis-seeks-comments-proposed-rul...

[3] http://www.regulations.gov/#!docketDetail;D=USCIS-2015-0008

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by ap3 on Tuesday February 16, 2016 @12:16AM (#11108020)
Sure you "can" do a lot of things, but a green card application requires sponsorship - not something you can do unilaterally

Main problem with H1b is low wages and lack of mobility - lose your job and you're out.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by logfromblammo on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:42PM (#11106248)
As jaded and crass as it feels to me as I consider it in my own head, I can't help thinking that the US ought to just let people jump forward in the immigration queue based on the amount of federal taxes they have paid.

If you're paying $30000 in income tax every year, which would be lost if you had to return to your home country, there's a really good reason to just hand you a green card. $30k is a significant chunk of a useless government sinecure, after all. And if you make it based on taxes, you can be reasonably certain that it will be recurring revenue, rather than a one-time windfall. And at that income level, you're likely to be a high-expectations parent to a child who will eventually speak English and want to stay forever. So bring the spouse and kids!

As a nation, wouldn't we want to encourage as much immigration as possible from people who will be net contributors to our society? Wouldn't we want to bring their families with them, so they wouldn't be remitting their earnings back to another country? Ignoring all the irrational racism, of course. That might still be a problem.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by mahyarm on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:33PM (#11106559)
One side likes high skill immigrants but does not like low skilled immigrants. The other side likes low skilled immigrants and thinks high skilled immigrants are a-ok too. To try to get their way, the low-skilled side says we won't pass your high skilled stuff unless you pass our low-skilled stuff. The other one refuses and you have legislative deadlock that prevents changing much of anything.

That's what I've heard about the problem currently.

Also I wouldn't base it on federal taxes, because people with state taxes will pay less federal tax since the state tax is a federal tax deduction or similar. I would base it on total USA tax load.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by vostok on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:37PM (#11106581)
>My solution? Let anyone into the country as long as they can prove that they are receiving a salary of > 125,000$ /year.

Perhaps the real solution would be to approve H1B visa applications for the top N salaries. You're clearly not experiencing a labor shortage if you're not willing to pay one of the top N salaries.

Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by stale2002 on Monday February 15, 2016 @05:41PM (#11106605)
That works to! The lottery system is crazy stupid.
Re:There is no shortage of STEM workers by davidw on Monday February 15, 2016 @04:40PM (#11106238)
> 125,000$

What makes that number better than $124,000 ?