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Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by toufka on Saturday February 06, 2016 @03:36PM (#11049706)
It's actually written into GitHub's Open Code of conduct. (The 'Open' Code has not accepted any changes for quite some time even though this particular issue was under discussion [1].) The Open Code expressly excuses discrimination against some races and genders, specifically by explicitly ignoring any critique which might fall under a 'reverse'-ism; 'reverse-racism' or 'reverse-sexism' [2]. This line in the Open Code was previously discussed here [3].

[1] https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/issues/82

[2] https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/blob/gh-pages...

[3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10043668

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by hitekker on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:24PM (#11049953)
I wasn't aware of this history. One thing to note is the sentence that precedes 'reverse'-ism:

>Our open source community prioritizes marginalized people’s safety over privileged people’s comfort. We will not act on complaints regarding: > ‘Reverse’ -isms, including ‘reverse racism,’ ‘reverse sexism,’ and ‘cisphobia’

Coded language for sanctioned discrimination.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by malandrew on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:40PM (#11050051)
It also fails to understand and accommodate intersectionality needs with respect to cognitive diversity.

Related reading:

Tact Filter: http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/tact.html

Ozark English: http://ozarque.livejournal.com/176349.html

When Nerds Collide: https://medium.com/@maradydd/when-nerds-collide-31895b01e68c

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by rashkov on Sunday February 07, 2016 @12:24AM (#11051747)
Thanks for the great reads and a fresh perspective (to me)
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by Laaw on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:33PM (#11050017)
I'm okay with it, because I can get a job elsewhere. Some minorities can't. I don't need to be able to get a job at GitHub, because for some stupid reason, society has a general bias in favor of me. I can work anywhere, but the folks they're giving a shot are folks who don't have it as good as I do.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by malandrew on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:44PM (#11050072)
If this continues to proliferate, instead of achieving a World where minorities have equal opportunity with non-minorities, we will instead end up with a mix of institutions where those in the majority have an advantage and other institutions where those who are minorities have an advantage. This doesn't look like equality, but a reversion to something looking like "separate but equal".
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by wildmusings on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:26PM (#11050251)
Every human being should be judged for the content of their character, not the color of their skin.

The law disagrees with you. I can very easily see Github on the losing side of workplace racial discrimination claim here.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by Laaw on Saturday February 06, 2016 @08:41PM (#11051096)
I wish your world existed. It doesn't, however, and minority groups need advantages over me in order to get the kinds of jobs I can get.

I hope we can move past this some day, but that's not happening today.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by alextgordon on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:51PM (#11050109)
What a load of tosh. Are there no disadvantaged people in America with light coloured skin?
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by Laaw on Tuesday February 09, 2016 @04:14PM (#11068820)
Because of their skin color? No.

For other reasons? Yeah. They get help too, though.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by angersock on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:15PM (#11050199)
Poor and middle class white people are a figment of your imagination. West Virginia basically is Narnia.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by lerpa on Saturday February 06, 2016 @09:53PM (#11051331)
Oh well thankfully hating white makes is just plain old racism and sexism not some reverse-whatever nonsense. So I guess we're good ;-)
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by fweespeech on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:33PM (#11050012)
> (6) Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women.

I'm just glad I dumped Github. I'm pretty sure they'd find my white female friends [some of whom needed to transition] being discriminated against as okay based on those slides.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by warfangle on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:36PM (#11050033)
Reverse racism is a myth.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by bendykstra on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:50PM (#11050103)
Do you mean that it does not exist or that it cannot exist? I've heard this exact phrase before, "reverse racism is a myth," and it seems like an example of a thought-terminating cliché.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by reitanqild on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:41PM (#11050054)
Don't know about reverse racism but I know very well that reverse sexism exist where I live so I'm tempted to say you are likely wrong.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by fweespeech on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:43PM (#11050063)
Given they are publicly singling out white women, I'm not really sure that is true.

You shouldn't be generalizing on race if you want me to believe that.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by mercurial on Saturday February 06, 2016 @04:57PM (#11050131)
So, as far as I'm aware, there is "racism-as-defined-in-some-academic-circles", where it's only racism when it's systematic and directed by a privileged ethnic group against an unprivileged ethnic group. Which is (IMHO) different from what non-academic people understand racism. Maybe that's what parent means?
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by im2w1l on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:17PM (#11050208)
Yes, it's clear that some parts of academia has people with really suspicious agendas.
Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by reitanqild on Saturday February 06, 2016 @06:04PM (#11050456)
> "when it's systematic and directed by a privileged ethnic group against an unprivileged ethnic group"

Honest question: does it have to be directed by "a privileged ethnic group" or is it valid if it is by any general group or even a single, privileged person?

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by mercurial on Sunday February 07, 2016 @03:23AM (#11052165)
Presumably, the "privileged group" should have a perceived ethnic composition different from that of the "unprivileged group", otherwise discrimination can't be based on ethnicity. But I guess it doesn't mean that all members of that ethnic group need to share this outlook.

That said, I'm no academic, but I remember reading something about this a few years ago, in the case of a woman in France accused of anti-white racism.

Re:GitHub is undergoing a full-blown overhaul as execs and e... by fweespeech on Saturday February 06, 2016 @05:00PM (#11050145)
I suppose I think I'm just pissed that they target white women. xD