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Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by MCRed on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:21PM (#11029443)
I've been paying very close attention to the responses of my body to different foods, etc. Drinking water has not produced better weight loss than drinking coke zero. Maybe by "soda" you meant soda with sugar...but for me, the coke zero is well worth the mood improvement, and I've observed no negative effects.
Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by billmalarky on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:24PM (#11029465)
Diet soda causes insulin resistance, dental erosion, and I believe acid reflux. Just something to consider when weighing the pros/cons.

http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/32/4/688.full

http://www.colgate.com/en/us/oc/oral-health/basics/nutrition...

A better alternative, though still exacerbates acid reflux I believe, is flavored club soda like la croix. After about a week of drinking it, lime la croix tastes like sprite. Then if you have a real sprite you'll gag. Plus it gives you an excuse to act all fancy.

I should probably add that the difference between diet soda and flavored club soda are the flavoring agents.

With la croix, "The flavors are derived from the natural essence oils extracted from the named fruit used in each of our LaCroix flavors. There are no sugars or artificial ingredients contained in, nor added to, these extracted flavors."

http://www.lacroixwater.com/nutritional-faqs/

However I suspect drinking carbonated beverages in general is worse for you than straight water, of course.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by parenthephobia on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:48PM (#11029641)
The conclusion of the diabetes-related study you linked to is not that diet soda causes insulin resistance, but that diet soda consumption is positively associated with metabolic syndrome and type 2 diabetes.

The nature of the link is not established, but the authors speculate that diet soda consumption may lead to increased consumption of high-sugar beverages or food either directly by causing sugar cravings or indirectly by impairing the ability to gauge whether one has eaten enough.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by tzs on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @05:41PM (#11030463)
> The nature of the link is not established, but the authors speculate that diet soda consumption may lead to increased consumption of high-sugar beverages or food either directly by causing sugar cravings or indirectly by impairing the ability to gauge whether one has eaten enough.

Or it could be the other way around. Suppose you are consuming a high sugar diet, both from consuming high sugar soda and eating high sugar foods. You are fat, and you know you are heading toward diabetes. You want to start taking steps to avert that.

The easiest step to take is to replace regular soda with diet soda some or all of the time. For many people that is as simple as inserting the single word "diet" into their order at the fast food place.

Thus, I think that you are going to see correlations between diet soda and various bad things because people who have these bad things or are worried about developing these bad things switch to diet soda.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by matheweis on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:48PM (#11029646)
>> ...for me, the coke zero is well worth the mood improvement, and I've observed no negative effects.

> Diet soda causes insulin resistance, dental erosion, and I believe acid reflux

Artificial sweeteners have also been implicated in fundamental changes in gut bacteria that can lead to obesity...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/artificial-sweeten...

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by brianwawok on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:45PM (#11029618)
I think there is also a mental response. Diet soda is sickly sweet. Your train your mind and body that there should be a sickly sweet treat with each meal.

Don't drink any soda or juice for a few months, and you may be surprised how sickly sweet it is. I would spit out diet pepsi at this point.

Once you get your sense on track for a reasonable diet, I find it helps with making other good choices. Like ice cream... too sweet, easy to pass up. Whereas former fat me would eat it every night.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by ashark on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:30PM (#11029921)
Can confirm. Now that I'm not used to having soda all the time, when I occasionally indulge my tolerance for the stuff is really low. 3-4 ounces and it's starting to gross me out. Sodas on the sweeter end of the spectrum (Pepsi, my old favorite Dr. Pepper) are entirely unappealing.

It's a triumph of marketing that having a big-ass glass of soda (free refills!) with most meals isn't seen as just as indulgent/gross as eating a couple big handfuls of candy or having a bowl of ice cream with every meal, when in fact it's probably _worse_, since at least chocolate & nuts or decent ice cream will have _some_ redeeming qualities (vitamins). Yet no-one's going to buy a tub of Ben & Jerry's every morning to have at their desk at work—they'd be too ashamed (maybe at home, but not among co-workers). A 32+ ounce cup of soda, though? Sure. Very common.

To anyone looking to kick the habit: I found that even _unflavored_ sparkling water or club soda just about totally eliminated any immediate desire to have a sugary soda. The carbonation bite was the main thing I craved, turns out, not so much the sweetness. These days I mostly drink plain water, but I went through tons of that stuff when I was quitting, and I think it was a big help.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by rmtew on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:16PM (#11029830)
I quit drinking coke zero on purpose for months at a time, and come back to it, just to appreciate it again. At no time have I ever thought it tastes sickly sweet.

Of course, diet pepsi is another matter.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by Quinner on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:43PM (#11030005)
"I've been paying very close attention to the responses of my body to different foods, etc."

Your personal anecdote is not a rigorous scientific study.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by tzs on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @05:14PM (#11030266)
Sadly, when it comes to food research a "rigorous scientific study" is often just a collection of personal anecdotes with some correlations identified.
Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by webkike on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:25PM (#11029468)
I highly doubt its even possible to isolate how one product affects your weight loss considering its not the only thing you will be consuming over several months
Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by pboutros on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:26PM (#11029478)
Why would you have expected it to? Calorically, the difference between Coke Zero and water is zero.
Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by bkjelden on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @03:30PM (#11029507)
While diet soda doesn't have any calories, I have noticed that cutting it out of my diet has had a significant effect on my appetite.
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Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by mhurron on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:14PM (#11029819)
I new a guy who was super healthy, no smoking, no drinking, didn't use aspartame for everything.

He went to the doctor feeling a little under the weather one day. Several weeks later he had died of leukemia.

Don't know what caused it, but I doubt it was replacing sugar with Aspartame.

There is a reason the plural of anecdote isn't data.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by CJefferson on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:11PM (#11029795)
Honestly, your claim is crazy.

For anything X, there will be something who consumes no X who dies of cancer, and someone who consumes huge amounts of X who dies of cancer.

Re:A Diet and Exercise Plan to Lose Weight and Gain Muscle by sgift on Wednesday February 03, 2016 @04:36PM (#11029947)
> It may be something else that caused the cancer, but I doubt it.

Like bad luck with your genes. Which is actually one of the most important factors in getting cancer.