Project Rider – A C# IDE

Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by danielcarvalho on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:26AM (#10893794)

JetBrains is deadly. IntelliJ IDEA is simply the best tool I've ever used for HTML, CSS, JavaScript, PHP, and PostgreSQL. Incredibly intuitive and it does it all. It's what Photoshop is for designers.

This immediately gets me stoked for doing my Unity C# development with this.

* Edit. Initially thought this was an entirely new IDE, and not just a plugin. Less excited, but certainly worth a look.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by gelasio on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @12:04PM (#10895734)

I've tried all of JetBrains tools over and over throughout the years since I keep hearing about how much some people like their stuff - but every single time I am disappointed at how over-engineered everything they do seems to be. Furthermore, their cross platform tools like IntelliJ IDEA always wreak of badly emulated native components that don't look or behave the way that they should on any OS.

So for me - Visual Studio 2015 is the best tool I've ever used for HTML/CSS/JS (and Node.js and C#). It simply outshines everything else I've tried. I guess if I was forced to use an OS X or Linux desktop, I'd resign myself to using JetBrains tools because they probably are the best thing you can find outside of Windows...but as someone who prefers Windows and who wants native Windows apps that behave idiomatically instead of just fulfilling the lowest common denominator - VS can't be beat IMO.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by danielcarvalho on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @02:06PM (#10896643)

I've had literally the opposite experience. Everything I seemed to need, IntelliJ IDEA magically had. I just ended up uninstalling things like pgAdmin, for example, since IntelliJ IDEA is just far superior at doing the same thing, and it's just right there where you code. Convenient. Usually it started out as, "I wonder if it can..." and then quickly find the feature that just does what I want.

Even as a Windows user myself, I can't quite articulate what has always bothered me about Visual Studio in general over the years. It seems to have it's own language, terminology, and way of doing things that you have to buy into. And I really don't like that. Let me pick a folder, have that be my project, and edit text really clever like. That's what I want.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by notrom on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @03:27PM (#10897222)

Take a look at Visual Studio Code. I too have this (probably unfounded) resistance to using full blown Visual Studio for projects outside of work, but have found Code pretty good for developing Javascript and HTML etc. Nice and light, pick a directory as a project, good GIT integration, reasonable text editor, built in debugger etc.

For me it's a good balance between a straight up text editor and full IDE.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by dsp1234 on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @02:47PM (#10896940)

like pgAdmin, for example, since IntelliJ IDEA is just far superior at doing the same thing, and it's just right there where you code.

You don't mention the two things together, but VS has the server explorer which you can use to hook in to a database and do administrative tasks (both design and data viewing)

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by gelasio on Thursday January 14, 2016 @12:01PM (#10902609)

Also pgAdmin is about as feature-ful as Notepad is so it's not hard to do something a little better.

Besides server explorer, VS also has SSDT (SQL Server Data Tools) obviously only for SQL Server, but I've never seen anything even in the same league as SSDT for any open source database.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by firephreek on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @12:14PM (#10895833)

What you call over engineered I call common sense capabilities that get out of my way. There isn't any thing (non platform specific) that I can do in VS that I can't do better and faster in the IDEA platform. And with the tooling consistency, in can jump between stacks and Stillman maintain the same functionality.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by danielcarvalho on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @02:08PM (#10896655)

"What you call over engineered I call common sense capabilities that get out of my way."

I should have just copy & pasted your comment.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by unusximmortalis on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @03:21PM (#10897174)

this is a very interesting debate is there a list of features side by side? or a comparative study that lists pros and cons? I do not think over-engineering is a subjective term, also common sense :) yes, between them there's lots of levels but one is at one extreme and one is at the other. so I guess, a good analysis of these two IDEs could be make with a good level of objectivity from the author.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by gorohoroh on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:38AM (#10893850)

This is not a plugin but a standalone product. Essentially this is standalone IntelliJ shell that communicates with a ReSharper process.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by danielcarvalho on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:43AM (#10893865)

Oh, my mistake. Excitement levels elevated.

Good news everyone!

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by Jack5500 on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:38AM (#10893849)

It is a completly new IDE, it's just based on the same technology they use for their other IDEs

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by codeulike on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:37AM (#10893847)

Sounds like its a branch of the IntelliJ IDEA codebase

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by winterbe on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @10:09AM (#10894812)

I guess it's just based on the Intellij Platform which is open source and also serves as the base for other Jetbrains IDEs like Webstorm or Pycharm:

- http://www.jetbrains.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=983889 - https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/...

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by 27182818284 on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @05:49PM (#10898281)

PHPStorm was the first IDE that not only made writing PHP significantly better for me, but also was the first IDE that I felt surpassed Visual Studio in many little ways.

The C# dev aspect of this I'm more excited for colleagues that use OS X exclusively--they'll be able to collaborate much easier with a full IDE than the lesser methods they are using now.

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by jinst8gmi on Thursday January 14, 2016 @10:12AM (#10901826)

A plugin is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. One IDE, many languages :)

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Re:Project Rider – A C# IDE by jayd16 on Wednesday January 13, 2016 @07:53PM (#10898892)

Sadly Unity will not be supported initially.

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