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Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mapt on Sunday November 29, 2015 @05:19PM (#10646337)
Here's what I think is more likely:

A small regional airport is taken over by Amazon. They build hangars and warehouses onsite.

It's ramped up to land and fly a big turbine-powered mothership every five minutes. The warehouse dispatches packages to stacks of delivery drones like the one pictured in the video. The mothership loads the delivery drones in order. The motherships take off regularly, and then as the mothership flies near the target swath, the drones are released one by one and glide to the target zone efficiently before doing a vertical landing.

Empty, they return autonomously to a small recovery facility in a vacant lot somewhere within ~5km. They're packed into a pickup or a semi and returned to the airfield in stacks.

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Why?

Because VTOL flight is not easy to do at long ranges; Batteries generally limit that to 10-30 minutes since vehicle mass fraction is large. Because very small planes are only a small multiple (2-5x) more efficient than VTOL flight. Because high speeds are something vehicles like this are not great at.

A drone like this doesn't have a great straight-line range when you sling a heavy load under it; Amazon is not going to erect sizable warehouses within ~5km of every plausible delivery. Their stock is too large, and too sparsely ordered.

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Or, even more likely?

Replace the flying mothership with a box truck dispenser. The driver stops at his target neighborhood, sends the drones out, they deliver autonomously, takes the drones back in 10 minutes later, and returns to regional warehouse in the next 20-50 minutes of driving, for 30 to 60 minute delivery.

Amazon gets to deliver to a neighborhood rather than to a house.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mnglkhn2 on Sunday November 29, 2015 @08:37PM (#10647112)
I believe your scenarios (especially the "truck dispenser") address the market Amazon has in mind: the suburbia.

If you notice, both video examples show the drone delivering at a house. It seems obvious that an urban setting is difficult to address. And actually delivery costs are higher in the suburbs, due to population spread, than in the cities.

The interesting thing is how do UPS/FedEx/USPS feel about this, considering that Amazon is aiming to "evolve" their business model? We should soon hear about FedEx/UPS trying to do drone delivery. But this is not only logistics but also a lot of other software and I think Amazon might be better suited for it.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by jessaustin on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:04AM (#10647826)
I was under the impression that UPS/FedEx are going to merge to form UP/Ex, which will utilize railgun launchers and aerodynamically-self-steering packaging to deliver anywhere in a 100-mile radius from a single facility?
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by bduerst on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:53AM (#10648164)
Using the autodidactic deep-learning A.I. that "corrects" it's targeting over time through an IoT police scanner.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by dingo_bat on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:13AM (#10648353)
Is this a reference to Rainbows End or am I just imagining things?
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mschuster91 on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:20PM (#10647237)
USPS won't care, their (legally protected) business is shipping letters.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by foobarian on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:20PM (#10647680)
I always thought USPS would be a perfect partner for Amazon since their post offices would be ideal takeoff points for the drones. They are everywhere and they already deal with receiving packages.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by thinkling on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:27PM (#10647705)
USPS was worried enough to agree to start delivering packages for Amazon on Sundays, which must've required some interesting negotiations with their unions.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by toomuchtodo on Monday November 30, 2015 @09:04PM (#10653247)
Sunday delivery workers are paid just above minimum wage and are non-union.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by giaour on Monday November 30, 2015 @02:55AM (#10648316)
Delivering letters costs the USPS more than they charge customers; they make money on package postage and use that to offset the losses they incur delivering mail.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mnglkhn2 on Monday November 30, 2015 @09:05PM (#10653249)
Based on a comment in this thread which suggested that USPS would be a prime (no pun intended :) ) candidate for a partnership, especially due to the existing real-estate infrastructure. If we think about it: USPS can very easily deliver letters/magazines using Amazon's service.

What if Amazon soon will develop the AWS-of-postal-delivery infrastructure?!

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by dba7dba on Monday November 30, 2015 @02:05AM (#10648189)
'The interesting thing is how do UPS/FedEx/USPS feel about this, considering that Amazon is aiming to "evolve" their business model?'

UPS/FedEx/USPS can feel whatever they want but there's not a darn thing they can do about it.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by jml3on on Monday November 30, 2015 @11:23AM (#10650146)
I'd guess they'll be elated. Delivering packages in the far reaches of suburbia (and beyond) is probably costing them money, as it takes a lot of truck&driver time to deliver a single package. If we assume they maintain their hold on urban deliveries and let amazon take care of the suburbia ones; their margin will go up.

Also, I'll point out that in my area of suburbia, UPS/Fedex sometimes deliver to USPS and let USPS do the last mile. it's not hard to imagine they'd deliver to an amazon base station where robots & drones would take over.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by TaylorGood on Monday November 30, 2015 @11:23AM (#10650142)
What Fedex does in my neighborhood I haven't seen prior.. they recently brought a gas-powered golf cart and the driver uses his truck as the "warehouse" and makes rounds all day.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by saryant on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:38PM (#10647539)
UPS has been experimenting with drones for a while.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by blazespin on Sunday November 29, 2015 @05:34PM (#10646397)
I agree with the last one, but ground delivery robots would make way more sense. I don't know about 30-60 minutes, however.

The soccer shoe emergency can't really be that big of a market. Emergency medicine by drone delivery I get, but the reason people go shopping nowadays is either grocery or an excuse to get out of the house.

Drones are never going to eliminate the excuse to get out of the house factor.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by avar on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:03PM (#10646524)
Today's soccer shoe emergency is tomorrow's normal turnaround. Imagine trying to explain to someone living in the 90s that they just have to watch this one TV show right now.

Surely they could just walk down to their local video rental store, not that many people really need to watch something right now!

But once something like BitTorrent & Netflix happens it becomes the new expectation. I think something like drone delivery or delivery via autonomous vehicles is going to similarly change the market for the delivery of physical goods.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by newjersey on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:30PM (#10646621)
To further elaborate your point, I think it is also about reducing friction. People will probably still go grocery shopping but if you were fairly confident that something you are not sure if you need is available both at Wally's world and at Amazon.com for about the same price, would you rather buy it anyways during your grocery run or put it off until you know you will need it?

I don't want to think whether I will need something near the end of the week. We throw big words like nothing but I concede this is one of the hard problems where the idea of express shipping (drones, land robots, or even delivery humans) in conjunction with large distribution networks could have profound impact on the way we shop.

While the distribution warehouse infrastructure of Walmart is probably nothing to laugh at, I imagine a large portion of the infrastructure is not centrally owned and managed by Walmart. Just like the famous "the network is the computer" motto, I bet Amazon thinks the warehouse infrastructure is the retail store.

(To go a little off-topic, the physical Amazon.com book shop sounds strange to me. I don't get it.)

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mc32 on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:45PM (#10646698)
This will sound a bit off kilter, but except for truly emergent situations (injury, medication, etc.) it's good to have some "friction" otherwise we could end up with a population demanding immediate satisfaction and perfection from everything, whereas many things will remain imperfect and unrealized. Why can't my government change right now the way I want it! Why are they serving someone else in need and not me!

I have a fear we're on the way to creating a whole class of people who are totally dependent on the system for everything. There will always be people who are well rounded and know the relationships between things (i.e. know where the sausage comes from)

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by arjie on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:04PM (#10646776)
Why shouldn't we demand immediate perfection? Why should we have to choose between serving someone else and serving me? Why shouldn't governments immediately change?

All the problems with having these things today are implementation problems not fundamental issues.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mc32 on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:16PM (#10647223)
We want a delay between what we think we want and what we get from government, else we get majority rules democracy which is not far removed from mob-mentality government.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by function_seven on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:25PM (#10647696)
I think you're stretching a little to get from faster merchandise delivery to mob-rule government.

Or, your objections would have been valid against the railroad and the telegraph as well (both of those reduced friction tremendously).

I get the gist of what you're saying, but I don't agree that artificially limiting technological innovation, or improvements in efficiencies is beneficial at all.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mc32 on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:42AM (#10647959)
I think railroads reduced times to human times (from weeks/months to hours/days --but it wasn't a snap of the finger kind of response.

The objection I have is more with the psychology rather than the physicality of it. It makes things more disposable. You lost a sneaker, we get it replaced in minutes. It's allowing people to gorge on consumerism. It also puts the local shops at a disadvantage. But, mostly, it removes the barrier to thinking about buying more. You don't have to think about waiting till tomorrow, or two days from now, or having to walk twenty minutes, or get out and take transit, or jump into a car to go satiate the impulse. No, all you need is your desire (and buying power) and it's fulfilled.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by function_seven on Monday November 30, 2015 @01:10AM (#10648053)
Fair point. This just happened to me yesterday. I needed a 3.5mm to RCA cable to connect my TV to the receiver[1]. The one I had wasn't long enough, so I found one on Amazon and ordered it for the next day.

By the time it was delivered, I had already found my long-lost extension cable and didn't need it anymore.

Waste of money and—to your point—if I didn't have that option I probably would have searched a little more around the house before resorting to buying a new one.

Ultimately I still want to see these things advance, though. Whatever mechanism that would set lower bounds on delivery times would be worse than the problem it would be intended to prevent.

[1] Never mind why the TV only outputs audio on a 3.5mm jack, kinda cheap.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by TrevorJ on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:14PM (#10646816)
That ship sailed with plumbing and the electric grid.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by toyg on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:06PM (#10647194)
One word (well, acronym): DIY. Middle-class suburban dad is trying to fix the newly-bought house, but he's constantly running out of the right size of screws and/or stuff he didn't even know he needed. At the moment that scenario results in a a lot of trips to the hardware store, but cheap 60-minute deliveries would change it for the better.

Neonatal supplies, cleaning supplies, you name it -- the sort of thing you really don't want to shop for, it's bulky and you never know if you're getting the right brand: if you could order it from a bookmark, knowing you'll have it in 60 minutes, then the actual shopping experience would become much more fun, because you can actually pay attention only to the funky meals you'll cook and the new stuff you can try.

And of course, geeks would jump on this like crazy -- 60-minute deliveries for new hard disks, mice, games and any other soho/gaming equipment? I would sign in blood ink right now.

I have my doubts the drone model can scale (for example, in Manchester, UK today we had 80mph gale winds...), but it's an awesome idea that would definitely change retail.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by marssaxman on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:57PM (#10651687)
I drove to the hardware store three times during the course of a single plumbing project yesterday. Each time, I bought everything I thought I would need to finish the rest of the project! I'm not even in the suburbs, I'm right in the middle of Seattle. I definitely would have paid extra for drone delivery instead of making that third trip, because I was really tired of driving across town at that point.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by lazerwalker on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:31PM (#10647506)
To be fair, in the long run the DIY use case is more likely to be served via personal fabrication. For small finicky bits like screws, being able to print-on-demand is going to be quicker and easier than waiting for a drone.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by zootam on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:07PM (#10647416)
lol delivering a physical game
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by inopinatus on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:53AM (#10647989)
A 20GB game (which is far from unusual now) in 30 minutes = 89mbit/sec, which is eight times the US national average broadband speed.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by toyg on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:10PM (#10647426)
Ever tried to download a boardgame / tabletop? It's hard :)
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by hooloovoo_zoo on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:40PM (#10646671)
I suspect this will be limited to urban areas, like all of Amazon's premium delivery options. 30 minutes of flight time at 30 mph means you could cover the entire city of Houston (the largest city by area in the U.S.) with about 4 warehouses. I think you're much better off trying to increase the range of your drones than using carriers because your coverage area is quadratic with your drones' range but linear with your number of carriers.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mapt on Sunday November 29, 2015 @08:31PM (#10647091)
Drones have got to get back in addition to getting to the target, and you only get 30 minutes if most/all of your payload is dedicated to battery. The drone has a fairly short range while fully loaded, and a lot longer range while empty.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by shiftpgdn on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:07PM (#10647196)
86% of Amazon's deliveries are under 5lbs AND a glider style drone has way longer flight times than a traditional quad/octocopter.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mapt on Monday November 30, 2015 @04:40PM (#10652077)
5lbs is a large number in this context.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by drbillnye on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:39AM (#10647955)
What we need is a sort of tcp/ip network for drones where they understand where charging stations are along the way, and other brands delivery drones would eventually be able to participate in the network as well which would spur growth. I'm good for a few charging / delivery stations in my neighborhood
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by leni536 on Monday November 30, 2015 @03:35AM (#10648401)
> coverage area is quadratic with your drones' range but linear with your number of carriers.

How running cost scales with drones' range? If it's also quadratic or worse then there is no reason to increase it.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by ChocoCrepe on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:55AM (#10647996)
Or even better, Amazon could build housing around their warehouses and move their shoppers into them. No flying motherships. No drones. No UPS necessary. We could call them Amazon Prime Cities. 100 bucks a year, housing included.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by 8ig8 on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:54PM (#10646733)
As a one time hooliganish teenager, I wonder if these will become targets for slingshots (or more sophisticated surface-to-air weapons).
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by nine_k on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:34PM (#10646896)
Not just hooliganism: there is real booty to collect.

I suppose the flying altitude should be outside te air gun range, with descent right naivete landing spot.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by criddell on Sunday November 29, 2015 @08:21PM (#10647055)
You can also collect booty from parked UPS and FedEx trucks.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by keville on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:01PM (#10647179)
In San Francisco, at least, the trucks' cargo areas are locked and reasonably well-secured when the vehicle is not attended, to reduce the opportunity for exactly this crime. I'm sure there are areas where sniping a few boxes from a truck as the driver is otherwise occupied is not so difficult, but that's not something one could expect to get away with repeatedly.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by dba7dba on Monday November 30, 2015 @02:09AM (#10648203)
There's a reason the drone is made to land going directly down, vertically, once it reaches the destination.

If drones do get shot down, I'm sure Amazon will eventually deploy escort drones that sense where the shots come from. lol...

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by Retric on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:21PM (#10646852)
Hitting something small going 30MPH at 400 feet seems hard even with most guns. Adding some cameras you could probably track down who is attacking easily enough to discourage most people.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by shpx on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:32AM (#10647920)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGLxKXtkHpY

Drone is a smaller than amazon's but it's a good demonstration

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mark-r on Sunday November 29, 2015 @11:21PM (#10647684)
When Amazon first announced their intent to use drones, one of my friends started using a phrase: "Skeet shooting, with prizes!"
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by toyg on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:15PM (#10647220)
From the page: "Our vehicles will be built with[...] sophisticated “sense and avoid” technology"

I can see an arms race between Amazon and would-be air-pirates; I honestly don't know what the state of the art in radar technology is, but if it can be drone-mounted, then you'll need something seriously fast to hit an intelligently-dodging vehicle.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by TeMPOraL on Sunday November 29, 2015 @09:57PM (#10647367)
Google showcased a radar-on-a-chip during the last IO; it looks exactly like something that could be fit onto a drone and provide short-range monitoring for incoming objects. The issue would be drone's reaction time though, especially when carrying heavy load.

As for hitting an intelligently-dodging vehicle - ever tried to throw a stick at a pigeon? I obviously don't recommend doing that, though I have some personal experience from the time when I was 9 years old, and I can tell you that suckers are damn good at avoiding projectiles. I doubt drones will reach that level of performance within next year or three, so for now, if you have something you could hit a pigeon with, you'll definitely be able to take a drone down with it.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by aaron695 on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:20AM (#10647882)
Did you shoot at cars with a slingshot?
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by brianwawok on Sunday November 29, 2015 @05:38PM (#10646409)
I assume this is for bigger cities though. In Chicago you can get to over 2 million people within 6 miles as the crow flies. If you can dodge powerless and buildings it seems reasonable...
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by bigiain on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:02PM (#10646514)
I wonder how many of those 2 million people have an appropriate size space for this video's "landing zone in the back garden"?

Where I live is probably high enough density to make this idea work, but there's not enough landing space I think: https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.9038146,151.1761515,327m...

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by DasIch on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:04PM (#10646778)
The drone could hover over the sidewalk in front of a building, you could signal it with your smartphone similar to how the sign is used in the first video. The drone could then drop the package or it could have a mechanism that allows you to pull the package from the drone while it's in the air above you.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by bigiain on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:27PM (#10646880)
Heh - have you ever been close to a quadcopter capable of carrying a 2lb payload for 20+ minutes?

It's pretty much 4 carbon fibre lawnmower blades thrashing around in the air. I'm not getting anywhere near close enough to remove a payload from one while it's attempting to keep a stationary hover in an area of poor gps reception.

I'm reasonably careless with my little quads (~350g with 5 inch plastic props spun by 220W motors), but my medium sized one (~800g) gets treated with much more respect. I've got a friend with a 5+kg Octocopter - it's got 2+kW motors spinning 18 inch carbon fibre blades, I don't get within 4 or 5 meters of that when it's powered up and armed (and I'm extremely wary of it when it's got power connected but isn't "armed", because that's really just trusting Chinese electronics and open source software to not chop my fingers off...)

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by DasIch on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:38PM (#10646912)
I admittedly haven't been that close to one but we do trust or are seriously considering trusting software to control heavy machinery like cars. Is is truly so out of the question that we might be able to make them safe enough for that?

It might require more advanced designs, far better tested and well regulated software but being able to get that close to a drone would enable a lot more use cases for them. I think many people are going to invest quite a lot of money into making this possible, so I think we're going to see something like this eventually, even if it takes decades.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by mapt on Sunday November 29, 2015 @08:54PM (#10647156)
You can mitigate this a lot with more props of shorter diameter moving slower, and grilles to serve as prop cages, at the expense of somewhat lower flight efficiency.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by avn2109 on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:15AM (#10647864)
Good point, but Amazon's drones are probably going to be propelled by ducted fans for just this reason.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by tommoor on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:19PM (#10646577)
I can imagine flats in SF (for example) being advertised as having a prime air landing spot on the roof
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by cbhl on Sunday November 29, 2015 @06:13PM (#10646556)
It's worth noting that Amazon already has warehouses in major urban centers for Prime Now: Nashville, Richmond, San Diego, Portland, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco.

It seems plausible that by the time (i.e. in a few years) Amazon gets regulatory support for its delivery drones in a suburban community that it'll have saturated urban delivery markets in the US and will be ready to build warehouses in the suburbs.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by vidarh on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:18PM (#10650491)
Internationally too. Three major ones in London so far, used to support Prime Now as well as same day delivery for a large proportion of "normal" Prime.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by schiffern on Sunday November 29, 2015 @05:42PM (#10646429)
>Because very small planes are only a small multiple (2-5x) more efficient than VTOL flight.

Seems like a longer wingspan is the simple answer, no?

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by zootam on Sunday November 29, 2015 @10:13PM (#10647439)
its a delicate and complex balancing act of weight, lift, drag, and thrust of both the airframe and any rotors, and the power output and energy stored aboard the craft.

longer wingspan means greater lift, allowing more payload, but also means more drag, and the additional payload and longer wings also increase the mass of the craft- leading to greater power requirements, which means more powerful motors, larger rotors, and larger batteries, which are also heavier.

The point is, drone/aircraft design and logistics like this cannot be solved with a simple answer like "longer wingspan".

How much longer? What about all the cascading effects on all the other aspects of the craft? This all needs to be addressed and optimized to be implemented properly.

Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by dba7dba on Monday November 30, 2015 @02:06AM (#10648192)
I believe the truck dispenser is the most likely scenario. I bet $1 on it.
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by Poiesis on Monday November 30, 2015 @12:55AM (#10647999)
Why would the driver need to stop?
Re:Amazon Shows Off New Prime Air Drone with Hybrid Design by Perixoog on Sunday November 29, 2015 @07:48PM (#10646946)
Except there will be no driver.