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Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by mynegation on Friday November 13, 2015 @11:25PM (#10564459)
Basically a regime of very low interest rates alongside tighter regulatory requirements creates things that haven't been seen before. Negative swap spreads for example mean that investors consider credit risk of swaps lower than US treasuries, which are supposed to be the golden unattainable standard of safety. The reason for that is that swaps are collateralized, that is counterparties in a swap are obliged to give each other money they are owing pretty much each day so you are on the hook just for 1 day market movement. Not so with treasuries and faith in US treasury seem to down.

Negative corporate bond inventories happened because new rules make it very burdensome for banks to hold corporate bonds because of reserve capital requirements. So bank sell their inventories and because there are many non-banking financial institutions that seem to have an appetite for corporate bonds, banks sell even more bonds than they have (being "short").

For the same reason synthetic credit is popular. Instead if holding an asset (corporate bond in this case) you recreate synthetic position with derivatives. For example, if you buy a right to buy a bond at a certain price and at the same time sell a right to sell a bond at the same price, it is essentially the same as if you bought a bond (bond forward strictly speaking, but we will omit the difference here).

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by dsjoerg on Friday November 13, 2015 @11:41PM (#10564490)
Have you ever met a five year old?
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by mynegation on Friday November 13, 2015 @11:57PM (#10564527)
OK, I'll bite. Imagine your mom gives you cookies and everyone in your school is willing to exchange cookies for other nice things. Lately your mom was giving you so many cookies that you accumulated lots of them. Your friends now come to you to borrow cookies more willingly than to your mom, despite her historically being more respectable cookie provider, just because she might not have too many left now.

At the same time you friend Tom opened a lemonade stand. He sells cookies with lemonade and this combo sells especially well. He wants to borrow cookies from you, promising he will sell a lot of stuff an then will buy and return more cookies than he borrowed to you (interest).

You see that lemonade stand does very well and you want to do it yourself. But unfortunately your mom forbids you to do so. So you do next best thing: you give Tom all of your cookies, and then some more that you - in turn - borrowed from mom and other friends, hoping that Tom will turn them around and return even more cookies to you.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by rushabh on Saturday November 14, 2015 @12:09AM (#10564554)
Brilliant! That just made me realize that borrowing creates surplus which in turn creates larger and deeper networks. That works really well for everyone if supply and demand are stable and no one gets very greedy. But if not, then things can go bad for everyone.

For example if Tom's stall does not work well, then the "cookie crumbles". Your mom, of course, being your mom will still give you cookies, no matter you did not make wise decisions earlier and you will still hold on to your incumbent position as a cookie distributor even though you don't deserve it anymore.

This goes on for a while, till people don't want your mom's cookies anymore because, all their moms have also started distributing cookies generously.

Then a new kid comes to your neighbourhood with an exciting new flavor of cookies and suddenly it seems cool to be having those cookies. Your mom, obviously does not like it and tries to out-law or regulate those cookies. But then, the train has already left the station.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by RobertoG on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:08AM (#10565401)
"Your mom, obviously does not like it and tries to out-law or regulate those cookies. But then, the train has already left the station."

That couldn't happen while your are living at your mom's house.

Just remember that your mom doesn't accept any other kind of cookies for paying taxes. OK.. maybe we stretched the metaphor a little too much there.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by xseven on Saturday November 14, 2015 @03:18AM (#10564931)
new flavor? did you just hint at Bitcoin
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by RobertoG on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:02AM (#10565385)
I love your explanation.

Just for the record. At the end of the day, your mother is the only able to do cookies and she is not limited in the ingredients. Your friends should remember that she could not be willing to do more but that doesn't mean that she can't.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by asasasasasas on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:55AM (#10564779)
Can you recommend an economics book or two?
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by mynegation on Saturday November 14, 2015 @10:32AM (#10565960)
Really depends on what you want to know. If you are totally new to the concept of money system, YouTube videos like this one [1] (it has three parts) have the best return on your time. Politically loaded but gets basics right.

If you want very condensed crash course in investing, economics, corporate finance etc., I can recommend CFA exam preparation materials. You do not need to take exam to get them, there are plenty of used books available for sale, and you can get them on the cheap as you are not worried about them being up-to-date

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x626joik0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_IgcmsqnVM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZhtGeRa-M

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by dsjoerg on Saturday November 14, 2015 @12:57AM (#10564673)
thanks! sounds nefarious.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by digi_owl on Saturday November 14, 2015 @02:29AM (#10564858)
Likely not intentionally so, but it is effectively a game of hot potato with debt. Someone, somewhere has to be constantly taking on more debt to ensure the whole system keeps going.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by eru on Saturday November 14, 2015 @06:09AM (#10565280)
Why? Why is eg constant debt not sustainable?
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by digi_owl on Saturday November 14, 2015 @07:46AM (#10565474)
Money spent on debt servicing is money not spent on goods and services.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by derriz on Saturday November 14, 2015 @09:25AM (#10565756)
Why? What happens it? It gets buried in a hole?

The money you spend servicing debt is the money somebody else earns on their savings. And many people (retirees are an extreme example) happily spend such money on restaurant dinners and new cars.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by digi_owl on Saturday November 14, 2015 @10:00AM (#10565869)
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by derriz on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:22PM (#10566622)
Could you simply respond to the point? I already understand how modern central banks work so a reference to a 14 page intoduction doesn't help.

According to your claim, debt interest just disappears while i know for a fact that it does not since i've used such money myself (earned on my savings) in the past to buy stuff.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by digi_owl on Sunday November 15, 2015 @03:41AM (#10568958)
Earnings on savings are independent of debt repayments.

If you look at page 3 of the document, it talks about how repayments are basically an accounting alteration of the debtors deposit account.

Meaning that said account is reduced by the mount paid, but does not show up with a matching increase on any other account ledger (the banks own or any other).

Debt and savings are wholly uncoupled, no matter what mainstream economics likes to think.

Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by eru on Sunday November 15, 2015 @03:46PM (#10571108)
The central banks pay out profits earned to their respective governments.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by CyberDildonics on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:39PM (#10566676)
It depends on the amount of debt. Complex things like this cannot be condensed into black or white simplistic answers.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by ubernostrum on Saturday November 14, 2015 @01:43AM (#10564760)
To be fair, in the context of reddit where it became a thing, the ELI5 subreddit defines the term as meaning layperson-accessible explanations, not patronizing "treat the asker like a literal five-year-old child" explanations.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by meric on Friday November 13, 2015 @11:48PM (#10564504)
The explanation for 5 year old would be, the adults are doing things they have never done before, so they see things they never seen before. And things people never seen before are often considered strange.
Re:Strange Things That Have Been Happening in Financial Markets by swiley on Saturday November 14, 2015 @12:08AM (#10564551)
Sounds like a furry orgie.