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Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by eCa on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:39AM (#10532661)
> Jia has one of those improbable-sounding but strangely common rags-to-riches stories of modern China. Born to modest means in Shanxi province in 1973, the third child of a teacher and a housewife, he landed a job in the local tax bureau in the mid-1990s, according to profiles of him published in the Chinese media.

> He quickly left to start a string of his own businesses, in sectors from coal to mobile phones.

Not necessarily improbable. But incomplete.

1. Low paying clerk job

2. ?

3. Billionaire

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by rdtsc on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:26PM (#10534362)
2. Corruption

Really, that is the default pattern for explaining how clerks with government jobs end up with such riches.

Have seen it happen many times in corrupt countries.

Judge or prosecutor on a $10k yearly salary builds a mansion house costing $2m+.

Even in my own extended family have an uncle who was in the Soviet military, relatively high rank. A few years after fall of the empire ends up with large duffel bags full of $100 bills. Rumor has it, he was implicated in selling SAMs to Syria and other ME countries. There was a trial but you see if you have duffel bags full of $100 bills you don't convicted.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by analyst74 on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:43PM (#10535306)
While corruption is rampant in China, a low level clerk at a local tax office can't really leverage his position to do much.

Also, getting into business in China a couple decades ago (upto mid 90s) were quite easy, and coal business is one of the more lucrative ones, thanks to the lack of regulations and local competition.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by rdtsc on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:53PM (#10535356)
> While corruption is rampant in China, a low level clerk at a local tax office can't really leverage his position to do much.

It depends, sometimes a low level clerk is a gatekeeper to higher level corruption, like a doorman if you wish. If there is not pre-existent relationship you need someone like that to make the initial contact. There is also nepotism, he could be low level, but because his uncle is high up the chain, he is a good conduit for those wanting to pay a bribe to contact, etc, etc.

More examples from a corrupt country. Long time ago, neighbor had a friend at a forensics and paternity testing clinic. He was a low level grunt but was corrupt as heck and was raking in tens of thousands per year both from criminal paying him to "not find evidence" and deadbeat dads and rapists for not finding "paternity" evidence. Talk about scum of the earth...

So sometimes rank is not proportional to profit from corruption.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by dragonbonheur on Monday November 09, 2015 @04:09PM (#10535874)
WHERE IS YOUR PROOF??? It's more likely that ease of access to the Communist Party's information is more directly responsible in his progress than corruption. Why are you equating your family's experience in the USSR to what the Chinese experience anyway? These are totally different countries, experiences and philosophies.

The Atlantic has published several articles on Chinese society and government. Maybe you should try and read them.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by rdtsc on Monday November 09, 2015 @04:20PM (#10535922)
> WHERE IS YOUR PROOF???

Do you really need to capitalize and use 3 question marks to ask a question? Yes, let me get on a plane to China and investigate this guy, I'll get back you. Had you used only a single question mark I might have skipped that step, but you know 3 show you are serious....

> Why are you equating your family's experience in the USSR to what the Chinese experience anyway?

Because corruption work surprisingly similar in a lot of places? It is the unifying common ground humans have. They seem to corrupt in the same plain old boring ways.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by dragonbonheur on Monday November 09, 2015 @04:40PM (#10536026)
News for you: corruption is not tolerated these days in China. Keep your racist stereotypes to yourself instead of trying to be an arrogant knowitall.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by rdtsc on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:59PM (#10536953)
> News for you: corruption is not tolerated these days in China.

Nice! I saved that quote in my notes, it's great.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by nocsaer1 on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:46AM (#10532689)
Some Chinese are probably wondering the same about Elon Musk.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by bane on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:58AM (#10532741)
Well, Musk had a company he sold...twice. Jia probably didn't sell the tax bureau to anybody.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by nocsaer1 on Monday November 09, 2015 @08:13AM (#10532814)
Reading is tech: He quickly left to start a string of his own businesses, in sectors from coal to mobile phones.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by goodJobWalrus on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:22PM (#10534329)
Yeah, but that doesn't explain that much. What kind of coal / mobile phone business? Where did he get financing?

If the business is buying a truckful of coal / handful of phones and going around the village selling retail, he could have gotten finances by himself. But many people do that, and never manage to become billionaires.

Or he had access to some serious capital, usually not available to ordinary people. Either way, there is more to explain, how exactly do you go from the tax office to billionaire status.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by boyaka on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:01PM (#10535025)
I think the fact that he started businesses in those fields is somewhat self explanatory. What's so special about paypal, other than it was there for the rise of Internet 2.0 / ebay or whatever? Getting into coal and mobile phones before the past decade when both of these have exploded in growth is the same kind of thing.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by Jtsummers on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:23PM (#10535161)
Coal, at least, sounds like something that requires a great deal of upfront capital to establish. A business like Paypal, less so. The hard part for that is tying into payment systems, but that doesn't require a lot of upfront money, more a network effect.

So the question remains, where did this initial capital come from?

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by rxin on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:24PM (#10534350)
While you might find it hard to believe given all the negative sentiments echoed by Western media, in China there are lots of stories like this. I also know a lot of people that have done it this way. Not necessarily multi billionaire, but definitely rags to riches.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by o0-0o on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:51PM (#10534523)
Logical fallacy alert!
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by hangonhn on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:29PM (#10535205)
"Jia probably didn't sell the tax bureau to anybody."

Well not in the normal sense of "sell"...

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by sharetea on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:22PM (#10534327)
Opinion: probably has strong Chinese government ties
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by o0-0o on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:50PM (#10534517)
Bingo! Communist front.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by nulldereference on Monday November 09, 2015 @09:30AM (#10533174)
I think this is great, I hope more entrepreneurs follow in Musk's steps.

Having a electric car revolution of a mass scale would be great thing. China has a much higher population density compared to most parts of the world, an affordable electric car starting from China will attack the problem from the other end. The high-end being Tesla, the low-end being Faraday or any other manufacturer.

I look forward to what this Chinese billionaire does in this space.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by lzhou on Monday November 09, 2015 @08:34AM (#10532896)
I find it amusing that there seems to be a cargo cult going on with respect to Steve Job's fashion.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by eps on Monday November 09, 2015 @10:43AM (#10533631)
You must be easily amused, and by random false conjectures no less.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by vinceyuan on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:03AM (#10532544)
This company does not do well in film production, “smart” TVs, video streaming, mobile phones, bicycles. But now it wants to make electric cars. It's really ridiculous.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by JonLim on Monday November 09, 2015 @08:59AM (#10533000)
Just curious: are you saying this because the article states that they have thin profit margins, or because you know how they perform in the market?
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by vinceyuan on Monday November 09, 2015 @10:47AM (#10533656)
Because I am from China. Smart TVs are their best products. But LeTV is still not a very famous brand. The quality is not good. I heard some LeTV died after a year. Its market share is still tiny. But this company just released android phones. I don't think LeTV phones are better than HTC, not to mention iPhone. I can't believe this company also produce bicycles, and now it wants to build cars. If a company wants to do everything, it can't do anything well.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by chefkoch on Monday November 09, 2015 @07:52AM (#10532713)
So where does the money come from?
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by ucaetano on Monday November 09, 2015 @12:10PM (#10534229)
Former tax office clerk?
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by saisi on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:00PM (#10535005)
It seems his plan of operation is to expand into as many possibly nouveau/profitable industries as possible. If successful, he might end up with something akin to a Samsung conglomeration of diverse product lines. Interested in how the established tech giants like Alibaba will respond to this. He certainly has an uphill battle
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by lakeeffect on Monday November 09, 2015 @10:09AM (#10533393)
Does anyone have any figures on using coal to generate electricity to power a car for a day verse a days use of gasoline in terms of pollution? It's always been a wonder for me. Now given the idea of electric cars in china it seems more relevant.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by DoctorZeus on Monday November 09, 2015 @11:54AM (#10534105)
This article has some interesting figures on pollution from gasoline vs electric cars: "There Are Places Where Electric Cars Pollute More Than Gas Guzzlers" http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/07/where-electri...
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by ucaetano on Monday November 09, 2015 @05:51AM (#10532291)
Sounds like just every other conglomerate that popped riding the huge grow in the past decade while relying on government connections, but fails to deliver.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by angdis on Monday November 09, 2015 @08:20AM (#10532839)
"Faraday", come on, can't they have chosen a more original name than yet another dead scientist, Musk used up that one already.
Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by samstave on Monday November 09, 2015 @02:18PM (#10535130)
https://www.faradaybikes.com/

plus its already used for an electric vehicle.

Re:Who is Jia Yueting, the Chinese billionaire linked to Far... by haosdent on Monday November 09, 2015 @05:37AM (#10532244)
Chinese Tesla