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Re:The porn industry is in a bind by pandaman on Friday October 16, 2015 @03:04AM (#10397867)
Just like in early 80s I cannot install an OS on my game console, watch or phone. Just like in early 80s I can install an OS on my PC. There had always been open and locked hardware, even in the blessed 80s. And no, I don't mean that smartphones did not exist. There had been mini-computers, mainframes, various embedded systems from calculators to microwave ovens etc etc.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by chinpokomon on Friday October 16, 2015 @03:18AM (#10397912)
But even locked back then just meant, "locked for the typical user." We're getting to the point where like cars before us, we aren't working on Chevy small blocks anymore.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by pandaman on Friday October 16, 2015 @03:29AM (#10397949)
And now "locked" means something else? There is no absolutely locked hardware that I know. If Apple can update OS on their phones it's not by some magical power that nobody else can possible posses.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by scintill76 on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:10AM (#10398061)
> If Apple can update OS on their phones it's not by some magical power that nobody else can possible posses.

Yeah, it's only signed by cryptographic keys that nobody else is likely to ever possess.

You "only" need to put in a new Boot ROM with your own key ("When an iOS device is turned on, its application processor immediately executes code from read-only memory known as the Boot ROM. [...] The Boot ROM code contains the Apple Root CA public key, which is used to verify that the Low-Level Bootloader (LLB) is signed by Apple before allowing it to load." https://www.apple.com/business/docs/iOS_Security_Guide.pdf) AFAICT this ROM is probably deeply integrated into the CPU, so hopefully you have some really precise tools and/or plan to make your own replacement CPU as well.

Re:The porn industry is in a bind by pandaman on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:21AM (#10398091)
Ah, I guess the signed bootloader is the 100% protection. Too bad PS3 did not have one, right?
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by scintill76 on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:32AM (#10398122)
The PS3 does have a crypto key, but it was recovered by hackers because Sony reused nonces in ECDSA signatures: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.crypt/3isJl28Slr...

Apple's probably isn't susceptible, especially with the PS3 failure in recent memory.

Re:The porn industry is in a bind by TeMPOraL on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:39AM (#10398137)
Yup. Companies are pushing unlocking the devices into seriously illegal territory. Yes, in principle you can unlock anything - you can always kidnap the CEO and beat him with $4 crowbar until he gives you the key. In practice we would like to be able to do it without harming people.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by pandaman on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:56AM (#10398183)
I am not an Apple user but I cannot help but notice some kind of "jailbreak" business going on there. Could it, perhaps, involve breaching iPhone security in some way that could lead to loading arbitrary code with system privileged and even modyfing the OS itself? It sure looks this way from a cursory googling. It appears Apple had been and still is susceptible to various attacks. As is every other company.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by lmm on Friday October 16, 2015 @06:36AM (#10398488)
It's never going to be impossible to access these devices (and I suspect Apple deliberately doesn't make it too hard). But every year it gets more expensive, riskier, and requires more specialised knowledge. Modern BluRay keys are already out of reach for a casual home user (speaking as someone who tried to play my own BluRays on Linux). Soon we'll be at the point where you need a cleanroom and an electron microscope to bypass protection.
Re:The porn industry is in a bind by rdancer on Friday October 16, 2015 @04:05AM (#10398046)
Get acquainted with the magic of public key cryptography code signing.