Ask HN: Is this an idea worth pursuing further?
Hello everyone,
two weeks ago me and a friend were in a bar and suddendly we came up with the idea for http://www.learntoplayanything.com . By now we have put some work in it and we get a few visitors each day. (Although Google apparently hasn't indexed everything yet.)
It was all done in the spirit of "f*ck it, let's just do it and see what happens", but now we wonder if it was such an excellent idea after all.
What do you think? Is it worth to invest more time into this website? What features can you imagine that would make the site more valuable?
We are currently thinking about inserting links to guitar tabs and piano sheet music and changing the layout to something more pretty.
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If you simply built a single page with a collection of links with that text to the video of interest, you'd largely serve the same purpose for users - search engines would rank the actual video higher for that query, but unfortunately you wouldn't be inserting yourself into the middle in order to extract revenue.
Your model is negatively effected by search engines improving their ranking algorithms with respect to video content. That seems like a bad place to be.
You win by getting traffic. Google wins by getting the people the results they were looking for. And the people win by not having to do a 2nd, 3rd Google search, and everyone is happy.
There is a very long tail to Google search. If you don't rank in #1 position for "guitar lessons" you can rank for #1 position for "guitar lessons using sweet home alabama song"
Sure it's not as profitable, with "guitar lessons using sweet home alabama song" you might get 30-40 hits a month, instead of 5000, but that's all you, and a few thousand such queries, will mean 80-100K users coming to your site every month with zero marketing on your part.
Aiming for that long tail is a great way to build up your traffic and site in the early days, until you start ranking higher for those more desirable phrases.
That's what I'm aiming for in this stage with http://styleguidance.com hit up the long tail, build up traffic, content and reputation, and eventually Google will throw a bone our way, and decide...hey there is this great style and fashion Q&A site, that has all the answers for the style category, why don't I give their results preference over those generic blogs to get my users better answers.
I think "sweet home alabama guitar tutorial" is a much better fit. Only 53,700 hits, and none are really an exact match for the search on page 1(which is probably true for all other searches). And that still gets you 6,600 searches a month.
So update your titles to be [SONG TITLE] guitar tutorial.
And you should be able to hit some decent traffic numbers with that.
typo on home page... "Also contact us if you want to contribute by helping uns organizing the links."
Can you add more specific information to your search results lists? For me right now, this page... http://www.learntoplayanything.com/component/tag/green%20day returns 20 results that all are "Boulevard of Broken Dreams " - would be more useful if there was some additional info to differentiate.
On this page: http://www.learntoplayanything.com/component/tag/green%20day... Which is the third page, the paginated link to page 1 actually goes back to the third page. The link to page 1 on all paginated results pages seems to link to the current page instead of page 1.
A better use of your time would be to cultivate your collection of videos. I think a collection of searchable video tutorials on how to play songs is a neat idea that addresses a different need.
I'd love to visit one that has a clean design with correct tabs and videos without all of the cruft. This site seems like a great idea if you can manage to load it with plenty of content without running into legal issues (I've seen many tab sites get shut down).
I do like the basic idea though, If you really wanted to make it good, you'd have to create much better navigation/browsing/finding options (that's the only value you're adding), and you'd have to seed it with 10000s of videos, and you'd have to add something, like forums or reviews something, that increases the value for users.
Clicking on the logo should bring you back to the homepage.