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Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Monday August 24, 2015 @11:56AM (#10110707)
If Steam OS becomes a viable desktop gaming OS that plays most, if not all games, I'll drop Windows in a heartbeat.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by rocky1138 on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:19PM (#10110898)
There are over 1,900 games on Steam that run in Linux.

https://steamdb.info/linux/

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:23PM (#10110923)
Many of the games I have in my library do not run at all unfortunately.

Sometimes I like to go back and play old stuff too.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by TazeTSchnitzel on Monday August 24, 2015 @01:13PM (#10111375)
Many Steam games work great under WINE, both on Linux and OS X desktops!
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by Xylemon on Monday August 24, 2015 @01:02PM (#10111286)
Wine is always a viable option, especially for older games. With DirectX 11 support coming later this year, almost every Windoze only game should hopefully work.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @04:51AM (#10115217)
What about the games that have no entry in the WINE database? Are they just untested or do they not work at all?
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by merb on Monday August 24, 2015 @01:28PM (#10111508)
it's still slower mostly. Mostly since they don't have any specification at all.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by yellowapple on Monday August 24, 2015 @08:22PM (#10113653)
It is? I've personally seen better performance with Wine + Linux than with Windows.

Now, this isn't to say that Wine is totally up to par with Windows in terms of compatibility, but performance hasn't been a significant issue for quite some time.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @04:48AM (#10115205)
I searched for a few games I'm playing now and have played recently and out of 10 there were 4 that had no entry on the WINE database.

This might be enough of a barrier to stop me using it right now.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by yellowapple on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @03:04PM (#10118781)
That happens, particularly on really new (or really obscure) software. Really, though, that ought to be an encouragement; sure, you're left in the dark, but it means that those games could use some test coverage. Your contributions to the AppDB could help quite a few others.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by anonbanker on Monday August 24, 2015 @01:46PM (#10111659)
Parent's post has so many qualifiers, it says nothing at all.

I do not see a performance penalty at all with WINE. Most games that work play at speeds matching or better than windows. WoW is usually a big example of that, as are emulators.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by gr3yh47 on Monday August 24, 2015 @03:40PM (#10112476)
WoW and emulators are both fairly trivial for a modern system to run well. There is definitely a significant performance hit if you are running something in WINE that nearly maxes your performance in windows
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by anonbanker on Monday August 24, 2015 @05:55PM (#10113131)
someone's never used Higan before. I've made Stunt Race FX and Yoshi's Island peg a Core i7. Running Tekken 4 on MAME is just as intensive.

Running either in wine is a fine benchmark on performance.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by dibujante on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:39PM (#10111079)
I updated to Windows 10 and found it to be so painfully slow that I switched to Ubuntu 14.04 for gaming. I've honestly had a pretty good experience playing everything from low-fi indie titles (like Terraria) to AAA releases (like Shadow of Mordor). Try it out!
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by dragonwriter on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:46PM (#10111135)
> I updated to Windows 10 and found it to be so painfully slow

I initially had that problem, but it seemed to be the fact that (on top of some phoning-home options that I missed disabling originally, which seemed to play some role in the slowness -- disabling them helped) the Windows 10 update from Windows 8.1 also, for some unknown reason, rolled WLAN drivers back to the versions that were several years old (pre-Win8.1 at least) and fairly broken and couldn't automatically locate new ones; redownloading the latest (for Win8.1 -- no Win 10 specific drivers were available for the hardware in question) drivers (which is what had been installed prior to the update) resolved the slowness problems.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Tuesday August 25, 2015 @04:49AM (#10115207)
I can't say I've had any issues with performance on Win10. Some games seem to actually run a bit better for me.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by minthd on Monday August 24, 2015 @02:48PM (#10112156)
Will games that run on Steam OS be compatible with regular linux ?
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by duvet on Monday August 24, 2015 @03:29PM (#10112424)
Yes. If you look at the Steam search you'll see that Linux is paired with SteamOS.[1]

[1] http://store.steampowered.com/search/?os=linux

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by cryoshon on Monday August 24, 2015 @04:01PM (#10112618)
Same. I would really like it to accommodate old Windows games as well, but that's too much to ask for right now.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by sschueller on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:01PM (#10110753)
Steam is owned by Valve and Valve is a US company. Using steam will not change anything since it is the US laws allowing/requiring companies to comply with the NSA.
Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by ionised on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:07PM (#10110790)
The difference being that I want to use Windows only for games without all this other cloud integration crap that comes with it.

Steam OS is a Linux-based OS designed primarily for gaming. Any and all cloud-integration will be specifically gaming-focused.

Can you not see the difference between that and a general purpose OS like Windows harvesting data everything you do on your system?

I won't be using Steam OS to do anything very sensitive like sending or receiving personal e-mails, editing word documents or spreadsheets, or browsing the internet for whatever reason.

Unless you consider firing up a shooter or a city-building sim sensitive.

The two OS's have very different purposes and use-cases.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by JadeNB on Monday August 24, 2015 @01:31PM (#10111532)
> Using steam will not change anything since it is the US laws allowing/requiring companies to comply with the NSA.

There's a big difference between 'allowing' and 'requiring'.

Re:Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10 by pjc50 on Monday August 24, 2015 @12:11PM (#10110815)
Telemetry is clearly not a legal requirement. It's only data stored on steam servers (including chat logs) which you have to worry about.