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Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here programmed in Kotlin? What do you... by pjmlp on Saturday July 25, 2015 @06:03AM (#9947148)
Clojure devs don't seem to care about performance.

Just check how the JVM gets the blame for what is essentially Clojure initialization time.

There are some in the community trying to improve the situation, but those are kind of forks like Skummet.

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here programmed in Kotlin? What do you... by hellofunk on Monday July 27, 2015 @05:13AM (#9954154)
By "performance" I think you specifically mean "startup time."

I think there is a big difference between startup time and runtime performance. It is well-known and fully acknowledged by the Clojure community that starting up a Clojure environment and REPL takes a while. But are you also suggesting there is a problem with Clojure runtime performance?

Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here programmed in Kotlin? What do you... by pjmlp on Thursday July 30, 2015 @01:06PM (#9976365)
I got that understanding given how performance improvements get postponed version after version. Apparently they will be coming on 1.8.
Re:Ask HN: Has anyone here programmed in Kotlin? What do you... by KirinDave on Saturday July 25, 2015 @03:53PM (#9948765)
> Clojure devs don't seem to care about performance.

Ridiculous. Clojure devs care a lot about performance. We just care more about correctness.