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Re:Bruce Schneier: China and Russia Almost Definitely Have t... by kbenson on Saturday June 20, 2015 @04:06PM (#9750895)
> > The vulnerability is not Snowden; it’s everyone who has access to the files.

> > First, the journalists working with the documents.

> Bruce Schneier is falling into the trap of saying since computer security is hard, the NSA has certainly been compromised and we can assume these docs have been out there for a while.

The NSA has been compromised. By Snowden. There's no assumption there, that's fact. Now, access to the documents not longer just means having NSA access (or a complicit person with access) or hacking the NSA, it includes access to any system or person who has access to all the files, which are no longer restricted to NSA servers. It's no longer about what the NSA's security practices are.

Re:Bruce Schneier: China and Russia Almost Definitely Have t... by Sammi on Saturday June 20, 2015 @10:05PM (#9751826)
Yeah but the point is that the NSA is most likely much easier to compromise than the Snowden documents.
Re:Bruce Schneier: China and Russia Almost Definitely Have t... by flyryan on Sunday June 21, 2015 @12:51AM (#9752230)
Wait... you believe that the NSA is easier to compromise than the computers of reporters from multiple international news agencies with various levels of computer security policies and knowledge?
Re:Bruce Schneier: China and Russia Almost Definitely Have t... by Sammi on Sunday June 21, 2015 @09:52AM (#9753420)
I'll let Schneier answer that, in case you didn't read the article:

> The open question is which countries have sophisticated enough cyberespionage operations to mount a successful attack against one of the journalists or against the intelligence agencies themselves. And while I have my own mental list, the truth is that I don’t know. But certainly Russia and China are on the list, and it’s just as certain they didn’t have to wait for Snowden to get access to the files.

Re:Bruce Schneier: China and Russia Almost Definitely Have t... by kbenson on Monday June 22, 2015 @02:25AM (#9756524)
That doesn't mean he thinks it's easier to hack the NSA, just that he thinks it already was, so it doesn't matter.