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Re:A YouTube built for gamers by batiudrami on Friday June 12, 2015 @10:59PM (#9709711)
The problem is Twitch infrastrucutre is not good enough to stream properly in many countries. A 1080p/60fps stream has only about a 6Mbit bitrate but in Australia will not work, even on a connection ten times as fast. Plus, without a special agreeement that only top streamers have, Twitch takes 50% of subscription money - I'm sure Google can afford smaller margins to lure streamers over.

The problem they will face is not that gamers are loyal so much as for many people "live video game broadcast" is Twitch, so people are unlikely to notice live streams if they're elsewhere. This is solvable though - most streamers upload their VODs to YouTube anyway so they can easily notify users when a streamer is live.

Re:A YouTube built for gamers by ken47 on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:18PM (#9709754)
1) I'm sure with Amazon's resources behind them, Twitch will get their infrastructure up to snuff in more remote regions of the world.

2) Amazon could surely afford to compete with Google on sub share % if need be. Furthermore, it's not just a matter of offering a higher sub share. It's (sub share) * (# of subs). Twitch has a very good head start on the latter.

Re:A YouTube built for gamers by 0xFFC on Saturday June 13, 2015 @07:32AM (#9710707)
As someone lives in Asia currently , I can approve this completely , I am watching videos from YouTube without any lag or any other problem , but believe me , watching videos from twitch is completely nightmare (at least for me)
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by thefreeman on Saturday June 13, 2015 @09:31AM (#9710940)
You are confusing megabits and megabytes. You likely read that it requires minimum 6 megabytes per second to stream 1080p/60fps. That would be 42 megabits. And that is a minimum. Depending on your settings you could need much more then that. Not to mention Australia has notoriously bad internet in general.
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by fernandotakai on Saturday June 13, 2015 @11:20AM (#9711269)
I have 150/50 fiber internet in brazil -- 50% of the time, i cannot watch a 1080p twitch stream, while i can watch a youtube livestream.

twitch infrastructure is notoriously bad for anyone that is not american.

Re:A YouTube built for gamers by Dylan16807 on Saturday June 13, 2015 @02:15PM (#9711960)
Often twitch gets terrible for me until I load a VPN, and I'm in America. They're probably getting screwed on peering.
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by batiudrami on Saturday June 13, 2015 @10:10PM (#9713580)
No, it's six megabit. You can right click on a stream and choose "playback stats" and it will give you a live bitrate as well as some other details. On my connection I can comfortably stream 4K YouTube or Netflix, but Twitch shits itself at anything more than 720p.
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by anon012012 on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:48PM (#9709796)
It's like butchers and supermarkets... The butchers, they can't compete. It seems doomed to be centralized. They're not creating another service as much as they're organizing their supermarket.
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by jebblue on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:41PM (#9709780)
I'd guess Google should buy Twitch then but I'm just a coder not a business person.
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by Bhullnatik on Friday June 12, 2015 @11:45PM (#9709787)
It's almost sure that they tried, but the deal didn't go through. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitch.tv#Acquisition_by_Amazo...
Re:A YouTube built for gamers by jebblue on Saturday June 13, 2015 @11:55AM (#9711379)
I see, we just noticed the story on Roku Technology News this morning too, didn't realize Google did try to buy them. In that case, it makes complete sense, thanks.