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Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by hga on Thursday May 07, 2015 @01:49PM (#9506900)
Yeah, well, trying to "[take] guns away" would trigger a civil war that would kill orders of magnitudes more people. That, in fact, is what sparked the American Revolution, when the British attempted to seize or destroy gunpowder, cannon, etc. (they did manage to damage 3 cannon).

If those people don't need gunshots in their lives, they should move to some place where they're not so common. Like the majority of the US where concealed carry is legal and, it is my impression, such bad areas are much more compressed.

Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by ceejayoz on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:34PM (#9507230)
> That, in fact, is what sparked the American Revolution, when the British attempted to seize or destroy gunpowder, cannon, etc. (they did manage to damage 3 cannon).

This is a pretty absurd over-simplification of the causes of the American Revolution. Lexington and Concord certainly involved a British march on militia supplies including weapons/ammunition, but those weapons/ammunition were being gathered not for their own sake, but because of decades of tension over taxation, quartering, limitations on public gatherings, things like the Boston Massacre, etc. leading up to war. The Massachusetts militia weren't just a bunch of gun collectors who got pissed about gun control.

> it is my impression, such bad areas are much more compressed

I'm not sure ghettoization should be pointed to as a success story.

Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by grecy on Thursday May 07, 2015 @01:55PM (#9506945)
Even when the homicide rate by guns is 10 times higher than the next developed country, you still don't see a problem.
Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by hga on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:07PM (#9507054)
I think you're reading more into what I've said so far than what I've actually said. In no particular order:

Adjust for demographics and that difference tends to go poof. Some time ago, and I should really check up on this, it was said that if you subtract the South, the rest of the US is pretty much normal. Being from the cultural South, I can believe this.

Decreasing homicides is not the end and and be all of what I consider to be a good society. The U.K. approach of outlawing effective self-defense per se, in the courts in the '50s and legislatively in the '60s, has resulted in a lot more overall violence, with innocents getting a lot more victimized. No thanks.

The history of genocidal slaughters of disarmed peoples in the 20th Century, which started with the Armenians in Turkey 100 years ago, ought to give pause to those desiring to disarm peoples.

A lot of Americans have a taste for freedom that doesn't seem apparent in much of the rest of the world; well, aside from all those who try to move here. I wonder why...?

Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by 15155 on Thursday May 14, 2015 @01:08PM (#9546210)
You should also note that much of the discussion in this thread has surrounded CA (specifically SF, Oakland, LA, etc.)

CA is largely hostile towards legal firearm ownership (getting put back into place by the courts, slowly but surely, though!)

These gunshots are not coming from law abiding citizens: most of these incidents are gang-related.

And you know what? Murder is illegal. More severe than any firearm-related law in the United States. If these individuals are attempting or successfully carrying-out murder, why and how do firearm laws prevent anyone but "good guys" from using them for legal purposes?

Re:Shotspotter CEO Answers Questions on Gunshot Detectors in... by grecy on Thursday May 07, 2015 @02:32PM (#9507212)
> A lot of Americans have a taste for freedom that doesn't seem apparent in much of the rest of the world; well, aside from all those who try to move here. I wonder why...?

If you believe that, you need to get out more.