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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by golemotron on Friday April 24, 2015 @05:49AM (#9432229)
> "Holacracy is a social technology or system of organizational governance in which authority and decision-making are distributed throughout a holarchy of self-organizing teams rather than being vested at the top of a hierarchy", according to Wikipedia.

Yet there he is at the top of the hierarchy telling people to do it.

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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by athrun on Friday April 24, 2015 @09:40AM (#9433182)
The first comment below the article points to an interview by Brian Robertson (Holocracy author) which discuss precisely this irony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOpVJIQWgqk

In traditional organizations, ultimate power comes from the top so implementing a large scale change requires a heavy handed top down approach.

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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by gadders on Friday April 24, 2015 @07:28AM (#9432531)
What if the holocracy decides they like hierarchies?
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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by ph0rque on Friday April 24, 2015 @09:08AM (#9433020)
Brian: Please, please, please listen! I've got one or two things to say.

The Crowd: Tell us! Tell us both of them!

Brian: Look, you've got it all wrong! You don't NEED to follow ME, You don't NEED to follow ANYBODY! You've got to think for your selves! You're ALL individuals!

The Crowd: Yes! We're all individuals!

Brian: You're all different!

The Crowd: Yes, we ARE all different!

Man in crowd: I'm not...

The Crowd: Shhhhh!

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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by rkuykendall-com on Friday April 24, 2015 @12:50PM (#9434482)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjz16xjeBAA

Quote starts at 1:20. One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.

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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by kbenson on Friday April 24, 2015 @01:28PM (#9434757)
I admit I was thinking while reading the email that it would be rather funny if their ad hoc emergent groups elected managers to manage them, and replicated a hierarchical structure.
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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by rickcusick on Friday April 24, 2015 @09:12AM (#9433038)
Right? My irony detection meter pegged when I read this article/email. Beautiful needs, tragic strategy.
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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by honksillet on Friday April 24, 2015 @01:47PM (#9434884)
You have to love invented Jargon that relies on invented Jargon in its definition.
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Re:Zappos CEO Tony Hsieh: Adopt Holacracy Or Leave by classicsnoot on Friday April 24, 2015 @06:55PM (#9436427)
Can you give an example of jargon that is not fabricated? Most people here have no idea what an onky bonk, a cookie, or a butcher flag is, precisely because they don't do film lighting. Jargon seems to spring up when people of different skill sets get together and do something without much in the way of previous models to pull from.

Not arguing for or against holocracy, just think it is interesting that the jargon is what you seem twerked by m8 </s>.

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