Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by jrockway on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:18PM
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Most people probably don't care. They still watch ads online and with their TV shows. I work in an office building that is completely owned by my employer, and there are little screens in the elevator that show ads all day. You walk into the elevator, and instantly any conversation you were having stops, and people stare at the ads. It is mind-blowing that the ads exist, and mind-blowing how interested people are in them.
(The ads are sometimes even for our competitors! WTF!?)
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by mmt on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:36PM
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This is, perhaps, another reason I prefer stairs beyond the nominal extra exercise[1]: I don't like being a captive[2] audience. I feel similarly about advertising inside of public transit vehicles and facilities.
[1] Perhaps another reason I hate high-density cities with high-rise office and/or apartment buildings.
[2] I'm not claustrophobic, even though I joke about being "trapped" in a little metal box, especially here in earthquake country. An elevator bigger than my car wouldn't be any more comfortable.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by jrockway on Saturday November 14, 2009 @10:33PM
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I agree with you. I would take the stairs, but I don't know where they are. (You would think, for fire safety reasons, that they would be clearly marked. But I have never seen any indication of their existence in this building.)
(I am OK with advertising on public transit. The government won't pay for public transportation, but advertisers will.)
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by akamaka on Saturday November 14, 2009 @10:00PM
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If anyone has been watching the new Apple over the past decade, it is obvious that they are not interested creating new market areas, but rather coming late to an established areas and beating the competition.
If Apple launches an ad-supported device, I would bet it will only be in response to a move into that area from Google or MS, after learning from their mistakes (just as they learned from the many problems of Windows-based smartphones).
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by mullr on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:38PM
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The fact that a big company has filed a patent doesn't necessarily mean that they're going to make a product. Usually it means that they care about that area in general and need some amount of patent "presence", some asset that they can take into negotiations to give them a bit of weight.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by jws on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:56PM
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The television networks have not accepted a viable internet distribution system. Until that happens, Apple and others will continue developing treats to entice them.
Consider the recording industry. Apple had to use DRM that made purchases feel like the familiar single copy sale of the industry. Eventually the music industry got over that and adapted to unlocked sales.
The television networks or studios will be happier with ads in their internet distributed product, since it is how they work. Maybe they will get over it with time and accept a model that people prefer, or maybe people will prefer to serve the advertisers instead of paying for the content. Time will tell.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by rabidsnail on Saturday November 14, 2009 @11:08PM
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While it would seem unlikely for Apple to implement a scheme like this for ad-subsidized computers, it does seem like something they would do for the music industry. I can see ad-supported itunes store content; watch this 30 second ad, and then you get to listen to the song.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by goodside on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:51PM
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Apple hasn't filed the patent to implement it, but to stop others from doing so. It damages the Apple brand if third-party crapware like that mentioned in the patent shows up on the Mac, and they just want another tool in their pockets to get rid of it if they ever need to.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by alilja on Sunday November 15, 2009 @02:37PM
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Simple answer: no. If they use this for anything, I imagine it'll be for something similar to the iPhone, but without another company (like AT&T) backing them up financially. This allows Apple to sell something at a low price but still be financially viable.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by marcell on Sunday November 15, 2009 @03:00AM
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My guess: This is for the Apple Tablet. Either pay for subscriptions, or view ads. And, since it's Apple, I'm going to guess that all ads must go through an ad approval process.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by pwmanagerdied on Saturday November 14, 2009 @09:40PM
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Large companies have patents for multitudes of ideas that they don't actually implement. Getting worked up over patent filings like this is a waste of energy, since it's rare that anything comes of it.
Re:Apple Wouldn’t Risk Its Cool Over an Ad Gimmick, Would It?
by rick_2047 on Saturday November 14, 2009 @11:06PM
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If you look at the article, it mentions that the ad enabled devices are optional and that too on a lower price. Now a person who cannot afford an iPhone may opt for the ad enabled device and may make it through the price barrier own a shiny new iPhone.
(The ads are sometimes even for our competitors! WTF!?)
[1] Perhaps another reason I hate high-density cities with high-rise office and/or apartment buildings.
[2] I'm not claustrophobic, even though I joke about being "trapped" in a little metal box, especially here in earthquake country. An elevator bigger than my car wouldn't be any more comfortable.
(I am OK with advertising on public transit. The government won't pay for public transportation, but advertisers will.)
If Apple launches an ad-supported device, I would bet it will only be in response to a move into that area from Google or MS, after learning from their mistakes (just as they learned from the many problems of Windows-based smartphones).
Consider the recording industry. Apple had to use DRM that made purchases feel like the familiar single copy sale of the industry. Eventually the music industry got over that and adapted to unlocked sales.
The television networks or studios will be happier with ads in their internet distributed product, since it is how they work. Maybe they will get over it with time and accept a model that people prefer, or maybe people will prefer to serve the advertisers instead of paying for the content. Time will tell.
Openness of iPhone Development (or lack thereof). 'nuff said.