Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by eranation on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @12:27PM
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I wonder what people in 67 thought was more unlikely, to have a computer that does all that we see computers do in that movie but in a size that fits in your pocket or a machine that makes your lunch. I bet the food making kitchen looked much more likely, sadly, we got pocket super computers, but still doing our own cooking pretty much the same way we did in 67, except microwave ovens perhaps... (well, I saw there is a kickstarter that plans to change that... but still...)
Except that, it's pretty amazing how they got a lot of these things right (except the notion that people of the future will know to press random buttons to get what they want, UX was not envisioned as an issue back then...)
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:11PM
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> I bet the food making kitchen looked much more likely, sadly, we got pocket super computers, but still doing our own cooking pretty much the same way we did in 67, except microwave ovens perhaps...
Actually, microwave ovens were commercially available from 1947 and the first popular home microwave oven was released in 1967.
There's a lot that's gone in more-automatic cooking devices -- both commercial and home -- since then, though the popularity of some of them for the home has been limited by the fact that people with a strong preference for convenience go for the wider array of prepackaged prepared foods available now rather than automated home cooking.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by hn_ on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @07:35PM
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$300? That's cheap. If I recall correctly I remember my mom telling me her first microwave was $800 (1982). That is over $2,000 adjusted for inflation.
The one in my kitchen costs $30 or $40 and I bought it a decade ago.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by aidenn0 on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @12:47PM
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They also assumed the computer would be monolithic and expensive (automatically contacting a repairperson, for example) when they have ended up cheap and disposable.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by TheOtherHobbes on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @03:19PM
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Terminals have ended up cheap and disposable.
I'm sure Google and Facebook employ a lot of repair people. But mostly no one knows about them.
The food point is interesting. It turns out that over time, it's much easier to downscale bit processing systems than physical machines.
Given Moore's Law, this possibly shouldn't have been a surprise.
I guess at some point we'll have another revolution when it becomes just as easy to downscale, domesticate, and add intelligence to physical machines too.
IoT is not that revolution. Nano and bio might be, but they're a good 25-50 years away.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by jsprogrammer on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @04:42PM
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Google famously ran on commodity hardware. They likely still do (although today's commodity is different than 15-20 years ago). If a piece fails, you just swap in a new piece.
Of course, there are lots of pieces, many interconnections, and many different failure modes. Some may be repairable, but you won't be repairing a HDD platter (if you're even using them), you'll just replace it with a functional piece and (hopefully) recycle the bad piece.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by sp332 on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @12:50PM
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The 1956 movie Forbidden Planet had a computer system with no instrumentality. That means no buttons, levers, not even a voice command - it was telepathic!
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by sp332 on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:07PM
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Hey, the computer just did what it was told. In fact that guy (whose subconscious told the computer to kill people) first made a robot which would refuse to kill people, even if ordered to. Too bad he didn't backport that feature to the more dangerous one.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by ctdonath on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:10PM
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Around 1988, I got to see a >$40M Cray 2 in person, and wondered what could be done with all that power thrown at a single user interface. [pats iPhone 5]
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by TehCorwiz on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @02:51PM
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That doesn't look very tasty. The crust isn't edged properly, it's really light on the sauce, they used sheet cheese instead of shredded or buffalo mozzarella...the list goes on.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by Retra on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @10:50PM
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I don't think you will make significantly more money with an automated kitchen, as the number of customers you will have isn't really influenced that much by it. But faster computers? In every pocket?
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by jgrahamc on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:16PM
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In 1967 we imagined a future in which everything has been automated so that preexisting roles could be carried out as before. Wife will cook, buy clothes; husband will shake his head at all the money wife is spending and be the spending decision maker.
Film is interesting from a technology perspective but also for what it says about society.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by morbius on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:27PM
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It's very interesting to note how futurists always nail the technological changes but ignore or otherwise turn a blind eye to sweeping societal upheavals that are far more difficult to predict. The archetypal patriarchal, white nuclear family is far less common than it was in the 60s, and use cases for appliances are typically genderless. Sure, there are still disproportionately more women in ads for cleaning products than men, but the growth of residential technology isn't centred around the sexist assumption that women are exclusively full-time homemakers as presented in the video. Instead, it's more or less adapted to the relatively egalitarian standards we live by today.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by rglovejoy on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @01:38PM
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The movie also had the computer telling the boy that he flunked. Back in 1967, they didn't predict that by 1999, every child would get a trophy just for showing up.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by morbius on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @02:04PM
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Or rather it didn't predict that in 1999 there would be more provisions for people with learning difficulties and special needs? Don't be so knee-jerk, there's a damned good reason for why we try not to harm kids' self-esteem anymore-- it doesn't work.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by 51Cards on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @04:19PM
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On the menu screen the date was Tuesday, June 2nd. June 2 was a Wednesday in 1999. Seems computers were having date issues even before Y2K had arrived. :)
I find it interesting how so many devices in the video used analog inputs (namely dials). I guess they were easier to mock up though by then I would have expected the keyboard concept to be more common.
Many of the broad concepts are pretty close. Like when I ignore the recommendations of my fitness / diet tracking software. :)
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by mratzloff on Wednesday April 22, 2015 @01:32AM
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I was howling at that. I half-expected apes on horses and a half-buried Statue of Liberty in the next scene. They could ride off with the kid whose outfit looked like it was something out of Dune.
Re:Film made in 1967 about 1999
by S_A_P on Tuesday April 21, 2015 @02:43PM
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Here is another thing the video almost got right- super high pitched falsetto singing. The only problem is the genre that used it was hair metal and pop, not salsa.
Except that, it's pretty amazing how they got a lot of these things right (except the notion that people of the future will know to press random buttons to get what they want, UX was not envisioned as an issue back then...)
Actually, microwave ovens were commercially available from 1947 and the first popular home microwave oven was released in 1967.
There's a lot that's gone in more-automatic cooking devices -- both commercial and home -- since then, though the popularity of some of them for the home has been limited by the fact that people with a strong preference for convenience go for the wider array of prepackaged prepared foods available now rather than automated home cooking.
The one in my kitchen costs $30 or $40 and I bought it a decade ago.
I'm sure Google and Facebook employ a lot of repair people. But mostly no one knows about them.
The food point is interesting. It turns out that over time, it's much easier to downscale bit processing systems than physical machines.
Given Moore's Law, this possibly shouldn't have been a surprise.
I guess at some point we'll have another revolution when it becomes just as easy to downscale, domesticate, and add intelligence to physical machines too.
IoT is not that revolution. Nano and bio might be, but they're a good 25-50 years away.
Of course, there are lots of pieces, many interconnections, and many different failure modes. Some may be repairable, but you won't be repairing a HDD platter (if you're even using them), you'll just replace it with a functional piece and (hopefully) recycle the bad piece.
Still blows my mind we've come that far, that fast.
Turns out that mass manufactured food is just as bland as mass market anything else
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philco
That's Wink Martindale (US TV game show host) in the husband role in the film. A few years back he was interviewed about the project:
https://vimeo.com/15063245
Film is interesting from a technology perspective but also for what it says about society.
I find it interesting how so many devices in the video used analog inputs (namely dials). I guess they were easier to mock up though by then I would have expected the keyboard concept to be more common.
Many of the broad concepts are pretty close. Like when I ignore the recommendations of my fitness / diet tracking software. :)
http://i.imgur.com/m3M0pZD.png
I love seeing them make an attempt of what modern technology would look like.
No matter what they do, it still screams 1960's style.
The "household monitor screen" was spot on. This is definitely happening as well as the "central bank computer." Wow, really impressive.
https://soundcloud.com/gabrielfalcao/home-of-the-future