Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by spookylukey on Friday April 17, 2015 @06:53AM
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From the plans page: Business plan, 100 comments per month, $49 per month. That seems ridiculously expensive to me - ¢49 per comment! Is this a typo for "100k comments per month" perhaps?
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by rip747 on Friday April 17, 2015 @08:58AM
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You would think they would have at least some sort of copy on site explaining deeper about what this is and the benefits of using it... i see nothing. All I can see is that this is some sort of comment thing, great. Right now, if I wanted comments on a site I would integrate Disqus.
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by drewda on Friday April 17, 2015 @10:28AM
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If you find this confusing--especially the pricing and the minimal functionality--consider that ThoughtBot is a contract shop that also happens to package up some of their client work into side products and educational materials. They probably developed this as functionality for a client.
That's probably also the pattern with: "FormKeep is a form backend for your static sites. No need for iframes, JS embeds, and CSS overrides." https://formkeep.com/
Take the example of Pivotal Labs developing Pivotal Tracker for their in-house work and starting to sell it on the side over time.
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by tel on Friday April 17, 2015 @12:32PM
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I think they actually developed it to support their blog and as a chance to prototype a Haskell workflow. Spinning it up to a product is an interesting choice.
It seems expensive for service provided. However they've established a lot of credibility on various Github projects so this may be a first iteration of something that will be better as it matures.
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by harryf on Friday April 17, 2015 @11:05AM
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Mobile? Strikes me there's been remarkably little innovation around bringing comment and forum-like functionality to mobile.
Given that typing hurts on mobile but you have easier access to other types of input (voice, camera, location, motion etc.) there's a need to reinvent the concept of comments
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by MadcapJake on Friday April 17, 2015 @09:58AM
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This is really poorly explained and man those prices are ridiculous. A free personal site gets you only 10 comments!? There isn't even a list of features that I could compare to other commenting systems.
Honestly, I've never really liked these kinds of per-paragraph/section commenting systems (I'm guessing that's what this is by the landing page) as you can't really have lengthy comments and it's cramped off to the side (possibly only this implementation is on the side, not sure)
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by matt_morgan on Friday April 17, 2015 @07:35AM
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Looks really good. Some questions:
1. It looks like google or github login is required. Any plans for anonymous comments? Or maintaining local user accounts, or connections to existing login systems?
2. There is no moderation. Any plans for editorial review options?
Re:Carnival: An unobtrusive, developer-friendly way to add c...
by patbrisbin on Friday April 17, 2015 @09:30AM
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Hi,
From the announcement:
> We’ve got all sorts of ideas for making Carnival even better, but the most important features are the ones users want – so please, sign up, try it out, and let us know what you’re looking for.
- Paying money so that people can leave comments on my site?
- No screenshots or graphics showing what it looks like on landing page of https://carnivalapp.io/
- Oh, It's an app? It's just a script isn't it?
- You put the whole thing on Github, yet, you ask for a monthly fee?
- So, this is basically like gitter, but for any site?
Yes, we've been doing this a lot lately. Nothing to stop you from running your own server, we're charging for our deployment.
> So, this is basically like gitter, but for any site?
Medium-style comments.
That's probably also the pattern with: "FormKeep is a form backend for your static sites. No need for iframes, JS embeds, and CSS overrides." https://formkeep.com/
Take the example of Pivotal Labs developing Pivotal Tracker for their in-house work and starting to sell it on the side over time.
It seems expensive for service provided. However they've established a lot of credibility on various Github projects so this may be a first iteration of something that will be better as it matures.
Maybe there is something after signing in, but I didn't want to sign in with Github or Google, and so I moved on.
Edit: Oh, there is, but I didn't notice them. Those light gray caption bubbles on the homepage.
Given that typing hurts on mobile but you have easier access to other types of input (voice, camera, location, motion etc.) there's a need to reinvent the concept of comments
Honestly, I've never really liked these kinds of per-paragraph/section commenting systems (I'm guessing that's what this is by the landing page) as you can't really have lengthy comments and it's cramped off to the side (possibly only this implementation is on the side, not sure)
1. It looks like google or github login is required. Any plans for anonymous comments? Or maintaining local user accounts, or connections to existing login systems? 2. There is no moderation. Any plans for editorial review options?
Thanks.
From the announcement:
> We’ve got all sorts of ideas for making Carnival even better, but the most important features are the ones users want – so please, sign up, try it out, and let us know what you’re looking for.
These all sound like great ideas!