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Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by csomar on Thursday April 16, 2015 @07:23PM (#9391336)
For general consumers, Microsoft is catching up. But Apple never really gained marketshare there because of its high prices.

For Professionals, (especially software developers), I don't think so. OS X is still very superior to Windows. And the apps on OS X makes it worthwhile.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by Illotus on Friday April 17, 2015 @07:04AM (#9393457)
Well for software development the only problem with Windows is that it isn't unix and a lot of the web dev world lives on unix. In my experience Windows 7 is much more stable than for example Yosemite, though I would really prefer to use some linux distro.

Osx just seems to have a lot of problems with very basic stuff like beach balling various system dialogs, failing with external displays etc.

The hardware is nice, especially the trackpads are way better than the stuff for example Lenovo puts out. Though I have to admit that I really don't like aluminium as laptop material.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by Toenex on Friday April 17, 2015 @03:32AM (#9392709)
I think the representation on Hacker News is somewhat skewed towards OSX developers, I'd be surprised to learn that OSX has ever outstripped Windows or Linux in terms the platform the people develop on. Certainly not as something developed for as there are a vast army of developers out there who target embedded systems, set top box, micro-controllers, industrial platforms etc.
Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by hvidgaard on Friday April 17, 2015 @04:06AM (#9392824)
What surprises me is the sheer amount of professionals that buy a MacBook Pro, and install Windows on it.
Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by babuskov on Friday April 17, 2015 @04:55AM (#9393016)
They just want the hardware. They do not want to learn how to use a different operating system.
Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by csomar on Friday April 17, 2015 @04:56AM (#9393019)
I'm not talking about marketshare. I'm talking about superiority.

I have been using Windows religiously for 15 years. I moved to OS X last August and it's way "too" superior to windows/linux.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by Toenex on Friday April 17, 2015 @08:03AM (#9393724)
> I'm talking about superiority.

You misspelled 'personal preference' there.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by pedalpete on Thursday April 16, 2015 @07:31PM (#9391372)
I work for a medium sized technology organisation (about 400 people) and lately you hear more and more developers talking about moving away from Mac. Most are going to linux some are picking up windows. I'd say it's about a 80-20 split.

The thing I really notice is how everybody with a mac has a machine that is newer than two years. Those who are hitting the two year mark are experiencing hardware issues, particularly lighting, which is needed for dexternal montitors, but it seems trackpad longevity is also an issue.

For most of us, the apps on OS X are also available on other platforms. The only thing I can't get on Windows that mac devs get is Sketch, but the designers post on invision anyway, so it isn't a huge loss.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by tjl on Thursday April 16, 2015 @10:41PM (#9392008)
I have a laptop from mid-2009 that's still good (it's a white MacBook). The only problem I've had has been the battery bulging and Apple replaced them under Applecare with no problems. The last I had replaced out of warranty for no charge. It's slow, but everything still works. I used it for my main machine until late 2012 (when I bought an i7 Mac Mini) and was my portable machine until late 2013. My Mac Mini has been pretty heavily used since 2012.

Everyone in my department at the university who switched to a Mac has had good longevity, most lasting about 4-5 years until they decide they want a new machine (but the Mac still works). I had two Mac Minis in the lab, one a G4 Mac Mini from 2002 and the other a first-gen Intel Mac Mini (it came with 10.4, I don't recall the year). I used the Intel Mac Mini until I graduated in 2013 and had no problems at all.

So, anecdotes are just that. My department consistently has been moving to OS X. Probably about half the professors have switched when there was just 1 professor who used it in 2007. Even my supervisor didn't switch until about 2010. He's still using the same iMac he bought then. The labs mostly use Windows because of the data acquisition software only runs on it as they tend to have specialized equipment that only wrote Windows drivers.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by NotOscarWilde on Friday April 17, 2015 @06:22AM (#9393315)
> I have a laptop from mid-2009 that's still good ... was my portable machine until late 2013.

I don't think this should count as a counterexample. You have switched laptops in 2013, and while there could be many valid reasons for that (battery life, more power for development, your old laptop does not support a new OS) it made you old laptop inadequate -- and hence the switch.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by tjl on Friday April 17, 2015 @01:00PM (#9395620)
The only reason why I switched laptops was because I got a new one as part of my work. I'd still be using it otherwise.
Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by iagooar on Friday April 17, 2015 @03:21AM (#9392681)
> The thing I really notice is how everybody with a mac has a machine that is newer than two years. Those who are hitting the two year mark are experiencing hardware issues, particularly lighting, which is needed for dexternal montitors, but it seems trackpad longevity is also an issue.

Having worked at a company with +50 MacBooks used for 3-4 years, it was really uncommon to see hardware failures besides batteries or power supplies. So I guess we can't generalize out of one experience.

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by coldtea on Friday April 17, 2015 @04:48AM (#9392983)
>The thing I really notice is how everybody with a mac has a machine that is newer than two years. Those who are hitting the two year mark are experiencing hardware issues, particularly lighting, which is needed for dexternal montitors, but it seems trackpad longevity is also an issue.

Yeah, no. I have 10 year old Mac (damn, 15 year old) that still work perfectly, as well as 7, and 4 year old. Not to mention that Macs, in general, retain their aftersale value better, so that they commonly "experience hardware issues" does not play well.

The reason some people get newer machines every couple or years or so is that the Mac ecosystem favors newer anyway -- you get quite updated specs etc every two iterations (usually the first iteration is speed bump upgrade), and sometimes things work only with the newer models (e.g. a feature that needs the later bluetooth chipset and wont work on the previous bluetooth generation, etc.).

Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by tzamora on Friday April 17, 2015 @01:10AM (#9392353)
I still have my Mid 2009 Mac book pro. Best Machine ever and still using it. I replaced the CD drive with an SSD and the performance in general of the computer improved a lot. The only issue is that the battery is too old and only last 2 - 3 hours.
Re:Why We Are No Longer Developing for the iPad by tomc1985 on Friday April 17, 2015 @12:24PM (#9395365)
Idunno, after running a MBP for almost five years, IMO Windows software is better. Most of it's not very pretty, but in terms of pound-for-pound productivity shortcuts and features-in-general, Windows designers/programmers seem to favor productivity over cheesy gimmicks (or, this contemptible trend of data sparsity)