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Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by josefresco on Thursday April 16, 2015 @10:57AM (#9388334)
I'm all for robotics, but the thought of an unattended machine whirling around my yard with spinning blades (of death) worries me. Granted, my "lawn guy" races around my yard already like a NASCAR driver on crack, but part of me wonders what sort of mishaps this robotic vacuum might get itself into. Small animals, toys, sprinkler heads etc.

It's one thing if your vacuum sucks up a kid's toy, or harasses your cat. Imagine the potential liability if your robotic lawn mower left your yard and entered your neighbors.

Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by ptaipale on Thursday April 16, 2015 @11:09AM (#9388447)
Stiga has been making robot mowers for quite a while, and I haven't heard of drunken Swedes who would have been hacked to death by their mowers after passing out on their lawn.

Apparently animals will run away and sprinkler heads can be marked with perimeter wire so that the gadget avoids them.

http://www.stiga.com/products/stiga_en/robot-mowers.html

Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by josefresco on Thursday April 16, 2015 @11:23AM (#9388576)
I have sprinkler heads all over my lawn, if the lawn mower avoided them I'd have patches of long grass. My sprinkler heads will routinely get stuck in the "up" position due to sand/dirt that gets stuck in the sliding mechanism.

This actually seems solvable by robotics, but it's not a viable solution for beacons or markers as they are meant to be "passed over" by lawn mowers.

Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by jkmcf on Thursday April 16, 2015 @12:38PM (#9389083)
Right now, Stiga is wondering WTF is going on with their website.
Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by melling on Thursday April 16, 2015 @11:12AM (#9388474)
This is from a TechCrunch article published 3 days ago:

http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/13/irobot-is-working-on-a-robo...

"iRobot: “Use of the iRobotRLM [robot lawn mower] will increase lawn mower safety. An estimated 1,517 lethal accidents occurred with lawn mowers through the years 1997 to 2010. It is reasonable to assume that many of these injuries and deaths would not occur if consumers used a robotic mower. More than 17 million gallons of fuel, mostly gasoline, are spilled each year while refueling lawn equipment. Abattery poweredRLM will reduce emissions, gasoline spills, fires and other such accidents.”NRAO: “iRobot cited multiple statistics of grim accidents and spilt gasoline to assert the public benefit of approving its wireless robotic lawn mowers. However, there is already a competitive market for robotic lawn mowers using wire loops [buried edge wire], which has somehow failed to stanch the stream of ghastly accidents and spilt gasoline that iRobot associates with the mundane practice of lawn-mowing.”"

Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by josefresco on Thursday April 16, 2015 @11:22AM (#9388560)
If you actually read the paragraph you'll find some (contradictory) issues with the NRAO statement (update: see below). Keep in mind we're talking about a statement made by astronomers about lawn mower safety.

"An estimated 1,517 lethal accidents occurred with lawn mowers through the years 1997 to 2010."

No data on the "1,517 lethal accidents" to prove that they were caused by fires or anything that a robotic vacuum solves (although I'd be happy to be sent a link proving this). So it's not "reasonable" to assume that these injuries will be reduced - the icing on the cake is the last sentence which essentially contradicts the first...

"there is already a competitive market for robotic lawn mowers using wire loops [buried edge wire], which has somehow failed to stanch the stream of ghastly accidents and spilt gasoline that iRobot associates with the mundane practice of lawn-mowing"

Edit: Just realized the fist statement (claiming safety) is by iRoomba, the second statement (disputing this) is by the NRAO.

So iRoomba (the one selling the product) claims it will reduce vacuums. The NRAO pointed out that despite a "competitive market" for robotic lawn mowers injuries have not been reduced.

Edit 2: Data! http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16361919

Re:The Roomba for Lawns Is Really Pissing Off Astronomers by Brakenshire on Thursday April 16, 2015 @11:23AM (#9388567)
You would assume, though, that most of those accidents are people using or maintainong the lawn mower. It's quite different if it damages someone else entirely. 'Robotic lawnmower runs over neighbour's child' would be a massive story even if it only happened once.