Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by rwmj on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @03:46AM
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I'm having a hard time understanding what's bad about this. If they are otherwise unemployable, then it's good that they are doing this isn't it?
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by crdoconnor on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @04:14AM
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What's bad is that they are often nearly disabled, and if they don't do this, they starve.
No social security for the elderly in Singapore.
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by lmm on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @03:51AM
(#9372711)
If they're not doing anything actually productive, wouldn't it be better to pay them the money and let them spend the time on something they enjoy?
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by ghshephard on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @04:32AM
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Singapore Cleanliness is a huge mental relief after having to deal with the disgusting mess that various parts of San Francisco are. Keeping this city/state clean is incredibly productive. There is a reason why a story regarding hiring cleaning consultants makes the front page news, and people are fined $15,000 for throwing out cigarette butts - singaporeans take cleanliness very, very seriously.
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by otterley on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @04:11AM
(#9372784)
Cleaning toilets isn't productive labor?
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by lmm on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @05:27AM
(#9373027)
Not if they're already cleaned plenty often enough and it's just busy-work, which was what I understood the parent comment to be claiming.
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by rjaco31 on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @05:41AM
(#9373078)
Without basic income, that's the closest you can get.
Re:Subway station toilets: a surprisingly accurate indicator...
by ghshephard on Tuesday April 14, 2015 @04:30AM
(#9372846)
Half the time? Are we perhaps engaging in a bit of hyperbole here? I can't recall the last time I recall a public washroom being cleaned that I wanted to visit - starting at Labrador Park (which actually can get kind of messy), and moving up through One North, Bishan, and Orchard. Occasional visits to Bugis - I'll try and visit them every day for a week or so, and see if they are every being actively cleaned.
I'd argue they are actually TOO clean. Because half the time I want to use them, they are being cleaned! It's a bunch of busywork to employee the otherwise unemployable. They clean bathrooms and sweep up leaves over and over again.