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Re:Amazon Home Services by stingraycharles on Monday March 30, 2015 @04:39AM (#9288305)
The problem is that they are using the Amazon brand to position it. This helps in gaining initial traction, but in the end damages the brand in two ways:

- people do not know what to associate amazon with (it's just a bookstore, right?)

- when they kill off too many project, or too many projects fail, their brand value hurts.

There are other businesses that have many, many product lines, but the most succesful ones (Procter & Gamble, Unilever) almost never use their core brand name and just invent new brands. It makes it more difficult to start, but is better for your brands.

Re:Amazon Home Services by nabaraz on Monday March 30, 2015 @04:51AM (#9288357)
But what about companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple etc? They have the same strategy as well. They use their brand to gain that initial traction and test out a new product.

And I disagree with you about a discontinued product hurting their brand. No-one remembers Amazon menu, Amazon movie listings, Microsoft Courier, Google Catalogs, Wave, Google labs etc.

Re:Amazon Home Services by moe on Monday March 30, 2015 @05:29AM (#9288478)
people do not know what to associate amazon with (it's just a bookstore, right?)

In my experience people couldn't care less about "brand identity" in general.

Nobody (outside our tech filter-bubble) cares what Amazon does or doesn't do beyond their shopping and book business.

Re:Amazon Home Services by icebraining on Monday March 30, 2015 @06:54AM (#9288707)
I don't think brand identity is about getting people to care; it's about creating an association in their mind, so that when they need X, they'll think of Y, instead of conscientiously having to think about where to get it.

Google is a good example, since their brand identity is strongly linked with web search. When people want to find something out, opening google.com is often an immediate reaction; they don't wonder if they should use a different search engine, or even look it up somewhere else. It's immediate and unconscious.

Re:Amazon Home Services by wehadfun on Monday March 30, 2015 @07:48AM (#9288856)
>Nobody (outside our tech filter-bubble) cares what Amazon does or doesn't do beyond their shopping and book business.

So true.

Re:Amazon Home Services by mcherm on Monday March 30, 2015 @08:23AM (#9288984)
> people do not know what to associate amazon with (it's just a bookstore, right?)

I disagree. I think most people know. Amazon was once a bookstore, then it changed; it's now the website where you buy things. If you're in IT it is also the major host for cloud computing.

There it is in a sentence (two for IT specialists). Does this leave out major things like video? Sure, but you asked about the brand, and that seems pretty clear: that website where you buy stuff.

Re:Amazon Home Services by icebraining on Monday March 30, 2015 @04:46AM (#9288336)
But if nobody remembers them, as MCRed says, does it really hurt their brand?
Re:Amazon Home Services by MCRed on Monday March 30, 2015 @04:56AM (#9288379)
Well, they stick around for years. When I found the mail order catalogs they were 3 years old.

Amazon.com runs on a lot of 20 year old code because they've never been able to upgrade it, because there's so much cruft. Amazon menusand all that create cruft.

There are bugs I fixed in 2006 that came back in 2009 and are still there-- the team that I was on when I fixed them no longer exists because the people got pulled off for nonsense "products" like menus etc that eventually got canned.

It's not just that they are trying things, the things they are trying take engineers out of their key talent pool-- which is pretty shallow to begin with because Amazon is a very anti-engineering company. (Really they hate engineers at the executive level.)

Most of the site at this point is cruft while engineers run around chasing nonsense that will never be in production more than a year.

Re:Amazon Home Services by aphexairlines on Monday March 30, 2015 @05:07AM (#9288425)
In what way do they hate engineers?
Re:Amazon Home Services by yelloblac on Monday March 30, 2015 @11:01AM (#9289943)
Also curious about this. What does "at an executive level" mean?
Re:Amazon Home Services by volaski on Monday March 30, 2015 @04:45AM (#9288330)
I don't believe cloud computing had anything to do with "just a bookstore" either and it turned out pretty well for them.
Re:Amazon Home Services by CPLX on Monday March 30, 2015 @09:28AM (#9289298)
> - people do not know what to associate amazon with (it's just a bookstore, right?)

Amazon is an online hypermarket, and I don't think that's even remotely a secret.

People understood the company mission of Sears, Roebuck, & Company, a hundred years ago, and they can certainly understand Amazon's today.