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Re:Why TCP Over TCP Is a Bad Idea (2001) by agwa on Saturday March 28, 2015 @02:26PM (#9282268)
IPSec is indeed hell with NATs, and an SSL VPN would be much better. But UDP is even better - most NATs do a good job with UDP too, and if done right, it's possible to switch Internet connections without the VPN having to reconnect.
Re:Why TCP Over TCP Is a Bad Idea (2001) by eps on Saturday March 28, 2015 @06:04PM (#9282910)
The hell are you fellas smoking? IPsec NAT traversal has been a non-issue since it was standardized about 10 years ago.
Re:Why TCP Over TCP Is a Bad Idea (2001) by mordechai9000 on Saturday March 28, 2015 @05:06PM (#9282771)
DTLS is a standard protocol for TLS over UDP. It is used by existing commercial products, such as Cisco Anyconnect.