News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:The new MacBook by dntrkv on Monday March 09, 2015 @02:50PM (#9172977)
If you're looking purely at specs, Windows laptops always were the better deal. But only when you use those alternatives do you realize how much further ahead Apple is.
Re:The new MacBook by throwawaymsft on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:25PM (#9173765)
And specs don't capture the OS UX differences (do you love metro on a non-touch device?), bloatware/spyware/adware pre-installed, activation headaches, app ecosystem...

It's like comparing the value of two watches using the slag value of melting them down. If that's how you shop, the device isn't for you.

Re:The new MacBook by Goronmon on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @09:33AM (#9177600)
(do you love metro on a non-touch device?)

Metro is largely insignificant on non-touch devices. Most days I only see it in the brief period during "Windows Key -> 'chr' -> Enter".

I never understood the Metro hate mainly because I find it such an unimportant part of the OS in non-touch day-to-day use.

Re:The new MacBook by pionar on Monday March 09, 2015 @03:22PM (#9173275)
Not really farther at all. Examples? Dell, HP, and Lenovo all have notebooks out there that are as good as any Apple notebook.
Re:The new MacBook by dntrkv on Monday March 09, 2015 @03:36PM (#9173386)
Until you pick them up, use them, have them break, and try to get support. I used to be the guy pointing out how there are Windows laptops that are just as good as Macs. It wasn't until about 2 years ago that I just completely gave up on the Windows market and just converted fully to Apple's ecosystem. Couldn't be happier. The Windows market is in a constant state of "almost as good as Apple."
Re:The new MacBook by eos_styx on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:56PM (#9174003)
The trackpad on my thinkpad broke. I spent 10 minutes on the phone with technical support that actually knew what I was talking about and they mailed me a whole new part. I replaced it and went on my way as happy as could be.

In contrast: By friend who owns a mac tried to set up a appointment because her hard drive was making the sound of a grinder. They told her that they could not make an appointment on the phone, she needed to use the iPhone app to do that. Well, she doesn't have an iPhone so the only option she had was to stand in line at the apple store 40 minutes away and wait. She spend two days doing this since it closed before they got to her on the first day and then the took her hard drive and replaced it while erasing all her personal data. It's a good thing I made a backup first.

Great Customer Service for sure almost as good as Comcast.

Re:The new MacBook by dntrkv on Monday March 09, 2015 @06:47PM (#9174594)
Sure, every once in a while I'm sure someone has a bad experience with their support but I feel it's a well-accepted notion that Apple has the best support in the consumer tech industry. A few sources I found in a couple minutes of searching:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2c2817%2c2452946%2c00.asp http://blog.laptopmag.com/tech-support-showdown http://www.thestreet.com/story/11366677/1/the-best-and-worst... http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/04/apple-is-top...

I've dealt with Dell, Microsoft, Acer, Asus, and HP in the past on multiple occasions for each, and it was always a headache. With Apple, it was always as simple as walking into the store and walking out with my issues resolved. I've even had them fix a keyboard that broke due to my fault on an out of warranty machine for just the cost of parts. The fact that you can go to a physical location and get service puts them on a different level.

Re:The new MacBook by sjs on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @02:07AM (#9176311)
I have to fly or take a ferry to get to an Apple Store. There isn't one on Vancouver Island. So it's great when you can get to one, but if you can't the support is not so good.
Re:The new MacBook by gsnedders on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @10:59AM (#9178040)
What country are you in? When I had some "user serviceable" part on ThinkPad break (in the UK), I had to send it off for a month(!), after spending 45 minutes on the phone trying to convince them to send me the replacement part.
Re:The new MacBook by hobolord on Monday March 09, 2015 @06:03PM (#9174521)
you can book an appointment online, so that would be the other option
Re:The new MacBook by pfisch on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:02PM (#9173589)
I have a macbook and an xps. I like the xps better for several reasons.

It is difficult if not impossible to output a macbook to a tv over hdmi and also send audio. Also the dongle that does hdmi conversion breaks all the time. Our office has gone through like 4-5 of them.

It is/was very difficult to disable your laptop display when plugged into a monitor in MacOS(I doubt they have fixed this issue). Also the macbook is crazily overpriced.

Re:The new MacBook by dntrkv on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:15PM (#9173681)
I'm guessing you're using the Air? I've had the Air with the Display Port to HDMI dongle and now have the Pro with HDMI built in, neither had issues with outputting HDMI sound. Just plug it in, and make sure the audio output is set to the TV in the Sound settings in System Preferences.

Never tried that second part, but the multi monitor support in the last couple releases of MacOS have been amazing.

Re:The new MacBook by nilkn on Monday March 09, 2015 @09:12PM (#9175333)
> It is/was very difficult to disable your laptop display when plugged into a monitor in MacOS(I doubt they have fixed this issue). Also the macbook is crazily overpriced.

Can't you just do clamshell mode? I haven't had any issues with that with my Macbook Air.

Re:The new MacBook by mindcruzer on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:09PM (#9173636)
Fully agree. I just got a new MacBook pro in January, and I'm completely blown away by the UX.
Re:The new MacBook by stcredzero on Monday March 09, 2015 @03:33PM (#9173362)
This is always true for a given version of "as good as." Heck, it would be true for the correctly chosen "better." The truly tricky part is knowing what "as good as" or "better" will actually play well in the market.
Re:The new MacBook by Retric on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:00PM (#9173570)
Actually, the dell seems to be stuck with a tiny HDD even on the 1300$ model. 128GB in 2015 on a 1,000+$ laptop is ridiculous you can get phones with that much disk space. Sure, they bump it on the $1,600$ model, but by then not having ~512 seems silly.

PS: You can get a 512GB desktop SSD drive for under 180$ so cost wise it's a non issue. And 30$ micro SD cards are at 64GB so 512GB would not be a space issue.

Re:The new MacBook by kbenson on Monday March 09, 2015 @04:14PM (#9173670)
According to anandtech, they are offering 512 GB at some point, and they have pricing. It's in the spec breakdown on the first page of their review[1]. It's not cheap to upgrade the drive, which is fairly standard with Dell.

1: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8983/dell-xps-13-review

Re:The new MacBook by Retric on Monday March 09, 2015 @05:00PM (#9174027)
Can you find any way to order that on their site?

Anyway, you will also note they did not actually send the i7 versions off for testing as the battery life would tank. IMO, there are three basic classes of laptop ultra-portable trade power for awesome battery life and light weight, desktop replacements which are meant to be used on a desk, and gaming machines. You can dump a large SSD into an ultra-portable without issue but dells approach of bumping RAM, CPU, HDD, etc. in lockstep just means their ultra-portables are stuck with tiny disks for little reason.

Re:The new MacBook by kbenson on Monday March 09, 2015 @05:42PM (#9174350)
512GB? Not yet. 256GB? Yes. I'm not sure why you are asking though. Do you think they aren't going to provide it for some reason?

You might want to read that whole review if you haven't already. They found that the XPs 13 had excellent battery life, to the point that they tested it and it was exactly what was advertised. That is, for the low-end screen (1080p) they got over 15 hours of light usage. Dell provides battery life estimates for different configurations (visible in the review[1]), so it's not inconceivable that i7 light usage might get over 11 hours as Dell claims.

1: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8983/dell-xps-13-review/6

Re:The new MacBook by Retric on Monday March 09, 2015 @11:47PM (#9175897)
There is a lot of fishy things about those numbers. Most notably HD video which I generally use as light usage benchmark was the 'worst case' actually given numbers. If that i5 dell is equal to a 2013 i5 mackbook air for similar useage patterns then actual heavy use-sage should clock around 6 hours for an brand new i5 from full charge to zero.

http://www.howtogeek.com/196582/why-you-probably-dont-want-t...

And an i7 would drop down to around 4.5 brand new under heavy usage. And around 2 before you start looking for a charger once the battery ages a little.

PS: The only reason I bring this up is their base numbers are rather low and they don't seem to have a way to configure the systems before checkout. Overall the i5 version seems like a real mackbook competitor, but their low end model seems to be designed more for halo effect (battery life, and price) vs an actual reasonable choice.

Re:The new MacBook by kbenson on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @12:23AM (#9176012)
The XPS is using the new Broadwell-U Intel processor, which is a die-shrink, and lower power usage is expected from this.

I'm not sure why you think it's fishy. As long as Anandtech has kept their benchmark tests consistent across different units tested, it should be fine. I'm not sure how you got HD video viewing as a light benchmark test, I've never heard of that before. Generally, decoding a highly compressed chunk of data and using it to constantly update the display seems close to a worst case scenario to me, unless you are doing serious data crunching (e.g. encoding) which while more common than it used to be, I wouldn't consider common enough to include as a regular benchmark in a general purpose review.

According to Anandtech's article, the 13-inch Macbook Air has a 54 Wh battery and the Dell has a 52 Wh battery, so the XPS battery is slightly smaller. The hardware drawing power from the battery is different through (Broadwell-U @ 14 nm vs Haswell @ 22nm), so extrapolating numbers in that way is not likely to yield very accurate results.

Re:The new MacBook by Retric on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @08:05AM (#9177228)
HD video decoding is a fixed workload so higher end CPU's spend less time working and get to down clock. There are plenty of games for example where they simply max the CPU so it's a good idea for your heavy load useage to scale.

Anandtech then just displayed numbers for useage levels vs hours:minutes.

Re:The new MacBook by jhasse on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @11:03AM (#9178072)
Enabling VSYNC in games will usally "fix" 100% CPU usage.
Re:The new MacBook by Retric on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @08:03AM (#9177221)
HD video decoding is a fixed workload so higher end CPU's spend less time working and get to down clock. There are plenty of games for example where they simply max the CPU so it's a good idea for your heavy load useage to scale.

Anandtech then just displayed numbers for useage levels vs hms.

Re:The new MacBook by yohui on Tuesday March 10, 2015 @06:32AM (#9176966)
> Can you find any way to order that on their site?

Yeah, the "Choose Options" menu under the "Hard Drive" section. Currently, the $999.99 and $1299.99 models can upgrade from a 128GB to a 256GB SSD for +$100, and the high end $1599.99 model can upgrade from a 256GB SSD to a 512GB SSD for +$300. Available options may vary at times.

Though I'd rather just replace the SSD myself, especially for the 512GB upgrade. Looks very easy to do do, based on YouTube videos.