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Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by keyle on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:16AM (#9136222)
I'd love the crazy theories to come out about those white spots. Anyone?

At first glance, it looks linked to the center of that massive crater. Could it be an active volcano of sorts?

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by mapt on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:40AM (#9136288)
So a 'complex crater' involves a certain degree of subsidence of the uplifted outer rim, and the forces involved in this subsidence, spreading the underlying rock, combine at the center to push material upwards into a small solitary peak. I always assumed this happened due to a continuous pressure of magma or something in volcanoes, but it turns out the effect happens regardless of and in addition to any underlying geothermal activity: it's a feature of gravity and long-term settling of annular structures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_crater#mediaviewer/File...

It looks like this is a crater which has ice(water ice? CO2 ice?) underlying a thick, mobile dust layer. When Ceres suffered an impact at some point in the past, it excavated a crater in the ice and dust, then the dust settled back down, covering everything. Over the following millennia / eons, the crater rim subsided and the center entered a long period of slow uplift, pushing through the dust layer and exposing the ice.

It's possible something more novel could be at work here involving phase changes and maybe cyclical patterns; Unpredicted seasonal geysers have been observed on Mars, as an example. A complex crater filled with dust over underlying ice, though, is probably the default assumption.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by fit2rule on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:41AM (#9136410)
Abandoned, but fully operational, alien base. We send humans there, land successfully, discover we are not alone in the Universe, and Humanity is united behind the effort to gain deeper understanding of ourselves. Also, there's a hidden door somewhere in the base that leads deeper into the interior of Ceres, where we discover .. the whole thing was a station.

A man can dream.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by CatsoCatsoCatso on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @08:42AM (#9137560)
It's a massive radio telescope reflecting the sun.

See how the Effelsberg 100m RT looks from a satellite:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/50%C2%B031'29.0%22N+6%C2%B...

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ridgeguy on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @02:06AM (#9136472)
In Alastair Reynold's scifi novel Pushing Ice, it wasn't Ceres, but another body in our solar system that with an apparent origin similar to what you've imagined...and behavior just too interesting for the curious primates to ignore...
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by IndianAstronaut on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @04:16AM (#9136805)
Eon was another good book which investigated this possibility of an alien rock orbiting earth.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by TeMPOraL on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @07:55AM (#9137407)
And then we discover that Charon is in fact a mass relay...

Yes, I have such dreams too, sometimes.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by danielbln on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @08:14AM (#9137464)
"Assuming direct control."
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by bjelkeman-again on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @08:28AM (#9137507)
Link it with the recent mysterious high altitude dust clouds on Mars and it could be the prelude to something exciting or downright nasty, if you read as much science fiction as I do.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-brief/2015/02/17/mysteri...

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by bonafidehan on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:49AM (#9136427)
That would be amazing. It would be so exciting to live through that.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ars on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @02:17AM (#9136492)
Why does that description sound like the beginning seasons of lost?
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by Iv on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @06:02AM (#9137089)
The not-crazy theory is that this is a chunk of ice uncovered by the impact that created the crater they are in and that they reflect the sun.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ChuckMcM on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:30AM (#9136265)
If so it would be some sort of ice volcano. I didn't find where it said what the spectrum was for the camera, infra-red? visible? something else? One theory for it is that it is a dust covered ice ball, a large enough impact could uncover the ice (although I would expect there to me a sublimation cloud at that point.)

If the core is nickle iron it could be a chunk that melted and reformed after impact.

Or it could be a bad pixel :-) but that seems unlikely as it moves with Ceres and not with Dawn.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by jwmoz on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @06:19AM (#9137117)
A recursive portal into the far, far distant future; billions of years in fact. Once entered, there would be no way back for physical bodies, however, radio transmissions could find a way.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by davyjones on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:41AM (#9136291)
My crazy theory: naturally formed nuclear reactor.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ridgeguy on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:27AM (#9136377)
Not far-fetched at all. There's precedent right here on our home planet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_nuclear_fission_reactor

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by InclinedPlane on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @06:40AM (#9137165)
Ceres is as old as Earth, so its Uranium should be as lowly enriched in U-235 as here, which is today too low for natural reactions. Additionally it would be highly unusual for Ceres to have concentrated Uranium ore deposits to a similar degree as Earth, for mineralogical reasons.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ars on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @02:14AM (#9136487)
You need water for this to work. Is there water on ceres?
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by jboggan on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @04:00AM (#9136751)
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by david-given on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @10:40AM (#9138192)
My crazy theory: you think it was a coincidence that, just as our spacecraft approaches Ceres, a defense satellite in Low Earth orbit 'mysteriously' explodes? Pah! That's just what they want you to think!
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by davesque on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:14AM (#9136353)
Awesome.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by anigbrowl on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:25AM (#9136254)
I'm curious too, so I was glad to read that the probe will get about 10x closer, and of course being there permanently means there should be some benefit from cumulative observations until such time as the power/equipement runs down.

Edit: it's entertaining to think about what results would create a scramble for a follow-up mission to exploit it.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by theophrastus on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:40AM (#9136286)
As mentioned in some of the comments to the posted article, I want to know if getting some spectroscopy on those white spots couldn't be possible. Perhaps summed over a quite long series? (Wouldn't it be a thrill if they were metallic?)
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by mariusz79 on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @08:20AM (#9137486)
According to the comment by Marc Rayman "We have obtained visible and infrared spectra every time we have acquired images. The results are not ready for release."
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by wiredfool on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @12:55AM (#9136317)
I don't think you'd get much from a spectrum. It's all (likely) reflected sunlight. It's not emitting light, so there are no emission lines, and it's not absorbing light, since there's no atmosphere.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by convivialdingo on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:28PM (#9139553)
The lack of atmosphere actually helps, as the spectroscopy will be more accurate.

I would guess that it's a very reflective crystalline structure. You can see that as the bright structure goes beyond the terminator, it is still visible for a frame, but it completely disappears the frame after. It's hard to say either way though as we don't know the specs of the camera. Lots of materials reflect light differently at wavelengths outside our normal vision.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by theophrastus on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @01:04AM (#9136336)
They concluded some of the mineralogy of the asteroid Vesta using spectroscopy ... http://solarviews.com/eng/vesta.htm
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by ars on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @02:16AM (#9136489)
You'd get some from info. Different materials have different reflection curves, especially if they can also image infrared.

Just subtract the known spectrum curve of the sun, and check the difference.

Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by divs1210 on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @06:54AM (#9137208)
Ceres could be the Death Star. Or the main component of Hactar.
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by mrfusion on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @09:35AM (#9137797)
Could they be ice or metallic material?
Re:Ceres' Deepening Mysteries by pmontra on Tuesday March 03, 2015 @10:57AM (#9138298)
Everybody would be disappointed if they were not the eyes of an exogorth staring at the probe and waiting for a lunch after so many years.