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Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by timonovici on Saturday February 07, 2015 @04:18AM (#9013549)
> the companies that own the content would never be willing to relicense them for DRM-free streaming.

Don't be so sure. People were saying exactly this several years ago about music. We owe it to Jobs that he realized it's stupid idea, and put an end to it.

> they'd develop their own proprietary application for it instead of providing DRM-free streaming (think of how Netflix has applications for mobile OS's and even consoles, both living room consoles and handheld consoles).

That seems better to me, than poisoning a whole standard just to get their way, or the highway.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by wodenokoto on Saturday February 07, 2015 @05:27AM (#9013614)
That's purchased music.

You don't rent out stuff and let people keep it after they stop renting.

> That seems better to me, than poisoning a whole standard just to get their way, or the highway.

The open web has been losing a lot of traction to a closed competitor on iOS and Android. Businesses in China are on WeChat long before they are on the web. Giving up streamed music and video completely to apps would damage the world wide web immensely by shifting more user to over to closed app systems. The web would go the way of the newsgroup.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by copsarebastards on Saturday February 07, 2015 @10:11AM (#9014155)
> The open web has been losing a lot of traction to a closed competitor on iOS and Android.

The open web lost a lot of traction to a closed competitor when it integrated EME.

Your argument here is basically "companies won't use the open web, so we shouldn't have an open web".

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by eridius on Saturday February 07, 2015 @02:53PM (#9015102)
> Don't be so sure. People were saying exactly this several years ago about music.

Music and video have always been very different markets. Among other things, music has always been available in high quality form without DRM (on CDs). And the consumer habits around music are different than those of video. And as wodenkoto said, we're talking here about streaming video, not purchased music

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by ris on Saturday February 07, 2015 @08:51AM (#9013938)
"We owe it to Jobs that he realized it's stupid idea, and put an end to it."

Don't buy into this nonsense Jobs sainthood. He was a person who went whichever way the wind was blowing.

Re:YouTube Ditches Flash, and It Hardly Matters by nsgi on Saturday February 07, 2015 @02:55PM (#9015105)
Does support for plugins poison web standards?