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Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by bduerst on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @05:24PM (#8993907)
Shareholders vote on the board, the board hires the CEO, and the CEO hires execs who make decisions for the different parts of the company. The shareholders rarely see or care about the day to day operations of a company, but do see the quarterly filings. It's very hard to quantize customer satisfaction on a financial report.

You may say this is a broken system, and for many B2C companies it can be. This is why I think that the benefit corporations are quite possibly one of the single best things to happen to corporate business in almost a century.

It allows a company to focus on a mission statement, and protects it from shareholders who only want to focus on profits.

Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by chrisbennet on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @05:30PM (#8993952)
I had never heard of "benefit corporations" until you mentioned it. Thanks.
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by TeMPOraL on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @05:32PM (#8993967)
Me neither, so I join in thanking the GP. Something interesting to Google tonight.

EDIT:

TL;DR from Wikipedia for the lazier of us:

In the United States, a benefit corporation or B-corporation is a type of for-profit corporate entity, legislated in 28 U.S. states, that includes positive impact on society and the environment in addition to profit as its legally defined goals. B corps differ from traditional corporations in purpose, accountability, and transparency, but not in taxation.

Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by dbarlett on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @06:25PM (#8994279)
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by TeMPOraL on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @06:32PM (#8994310)
Thanks for the list! I've heard of Etsy but I had no clue they're a B-corp.

By the way, they have a lovely FAQ:

"How did Etsy get its name?

The true origin of the word “Etsy” is a mystery known only to our founders. If someone asks you where the name came from, just make something up. That’s what we do."

Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by keypusher on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @12:31AM (#8995481)
My personal theory is that it is related to /etc. As most people who work in Linux know, this directory is usually pronounced "etsy". Because it's a website, and they sell random kinds of stuff, I have a hunch there is a connection. I could be completely wrong.
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by duggan on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:28AM (#8995870)
I suspect the abbreviation of "et cetera" has a more direct correlation than the unix filesystem.
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by jey on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @04:06AM (#8995942)
But how often do you pronounce it as "etsy" and not "et cetera" except when referring to /etc?
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by dredmorbius on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @12:41AM (#8995501)
Also Ello.
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by lazaroclapp on Tuesday February 03, 2015 @07:18PM (#8994516)
Question about benefit corporations, how are their charters enforced, legally? Say a company registers as benefit corp with the mandate to never perform mass layoffs, or to cap emissions to X, or to never sell user data. Then the company leadership, at some point, violates this rule. What are the legal consequences for the company? Is it a fine? Does the corporation get dissolved and their assets become public property (and their IP, public domain)? Is the leadership arrested? (I do suspect the last is too extreme, since it's a civil, not a criminal matter...)
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by alexqgb on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @12:48AM (#8995517)
INALB from what I understand, getting certified as a B Corp depends on meeting a number of pre-determined conditions. As long as the company is in compliance with a specific percentage of these conditions, they qualify. From what I remember, it can be well under half. In other words, maintaining their charter does not depend on rigid adherence to the specific set of conditions they initially conformed with at founding, just that they conform with a set number of standards for social responsibility.

The real point is that shareholders can't force the company out of general compliance. Meanwhile, managers retain considerable latitude in determining how they will remain in compliance as the company grows and evolves.

Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by lazaroclapp on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @01:53AM (#8995656)
But, in theory, shareholders still can fire the CEO, the new CEO can change any appointments, the company can fall out of compliance and still retain all assets and IP, correct? So it's more of a pledge with some safe-stops that makes it more robust than just a PR release, but it doesn't really legally guarantee the company will never use factories/data in a way that goes against their declared principles, then?
Re:Layoff Underway at IBM by alexqgb on Wednesday February 04, 2015 @03:32PM (#8999538)
I have no idea what happens if a B-Corp gets stripped of its standing, or how easily it can convert to an S-Corp, but from what I understand, the whole point of the B-Corp is to make the scenario you described exceedingly unlikely. In other words, B-Corps exist to free managers from the pressure of these threats exactly, while submitting them to a discipline with demonstrably broad social utility. The assumption is that this is also benefits the kind of patient investors with long-range plans who recognize how counter-productive the market's prevailing short-termism has become. Under the B-Corp paradigm, liberation from this is seen as a competitive advantage.

As long as founders and managers run a profitable company within these parameters, they - and their investors - will be fine. Indeed, they can, in theory, pursue the kinds of opportunities that companies totally beholden to growing their quarterly returns have to pass up. What they don't have to deal with is some short-term "investors" who want to extract a large hit of quick cash before leaving the smouldering ruin of a once-decent brand in their wake.