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Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by woodman on Monday January 26, 2015 @09:36PM (#8950969)
What is secret about a moat, electrified fence or a stated policy of mutual assured destruction?
Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @01:23AM (#8951536)
> What is secret about a moat, electrified fence or a stated policy of mutual assured destruction?

Normal people don't have a moat.

A major reason that e.g. home invasions are risky (and thus are deterred) is that the criminal doesn't know when the mark or the neighbors will be away from home, what security may be in place or whether there is anything worth stealing. If you put that information on the internet for anyone then every time you come home from work all your electronics will be missing.

Replacing that "security through obscurity" with actual physical security is not something most people can afford.

Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by woodman on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @01:52AM (#8951709)
What is more likely: I was suggesting that people secure their homes with a moat; or I was demonstrating that, contrary to the post I was responding to, not all security relies upon obscurity?
Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by JetSpiegel on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @05:54AM (#8952406)
Most people can't have moats, they don't live in detached houses. Apartments and high rises are much more common, moats don't work there.
Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @03:00AM (#8951958)
And what good is physical security if you don't have it? If it doesn't exist in practice then pointing out that it exists in theory is just being pedantic.
Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by woodman on Tuesday January 27, 2015 @03:59AM (#8952083)
lol, ok buddy - being described as pedantic by a person who just helpfully volunteered the revelation that normal people don't have moats is just too weird.
Re:U.S. Spies on Millions of Cars by navait on Monday January 26, 2015 @11:33PM (#8951257)
Heh, true. I've seen too much time thinking of computer security, and neglected to think of real world security.