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Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by tswartz on Friday January 16, 2015 @05:57PM (#8902316)
Ira Glass has some advice on the issue of when you start something you enjoy, but your skill doesn't match your taste. Push through and keep practicing until your skill matches your taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbC4gqZGPSY

Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by dragonwriter on Friday January 16, 2015 @05:58PM (#8902323)
I don't think the problem is things you enjoy but don't have skill to match your taste, the issue is identifying things you would enjoy if you had more skill, so you know where it is worth investing the effort to get over the lack of current skill.
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by newtonapple on Friday January 16, 2015 @06:33PM (#8902492)
I'd argue that sometimes you don't really know what good taste is or whether or not you would enjoy something until you've acquired a certain level of competency for it. Sports, programming and math are all like this. The more you work on them the more enjoyable they become, and you'd become a lot more "tasteful".
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by dingaling on Saturday January 17, 2015 @09:52AM (#8904412)
> The more you work on them the more enjoyable they become

Hmmm. After a decade of running, swimming and circuits I still detest them every day just as much as when I started.

The key might be that one can only enjoy activities that are done purely for whimsical reasons.

Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by paulvs on Friday January 16, 2015 @08:03PM (#8902855)
Programming, maths & science, etc. are acquired tastes. Not things you can enjoy from the get-go. I think many friends and family of mine would make far better programmers than I, or great scientists, but they've never had the need to venture out of their comfort zone to try something new. The age of constant distractions and an easy lifestyle is not conducive to breaking out of the norm. The things I enjoy most took me years of studying.
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by dragonwriter on Friday January 16, 2015 @08:10PM (#8902866)
> Programming, maths & science, etc. are acquired tastes. Not things you can enjoy from the get-go.

I dunno, I enjoyed all three from the get-go. Ballroom dance I suspected I would enjoy, but it took me a while to get to the point where it wasn't just work to do it (even though I enjoyed watching it.)

I know plenty of people for whom those things are flipped. I don't think "what you can enjoy from the get-go" and "what takes more time to learn you can enjoy" is constant from person to person.

Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by paulvs on Friday January 16, 2015 @09:15PM (#8903066)
In my case, I didn't expect to enjoy learning Paraguayan traditional dancing, but it sure was fun and I'm glad I tried it. Like another poster pointed out, it's the hard work that comes first (overcoming the fear, or plugging away at the books), then comes the satisfaction. I think it must feel lonely being a great mathematician for example, knowing that everyone else has settled for less, and that only you and a few others have even a slight understanding of the universe.
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by eru on Friday January 16, 2015 @09:49PM (#8903172)
Math is mostly about communication with other people.

Only recently have computer proofs become somewhat accepted. The holy grail is still to find simple proofs to interesting problems to enlighten people.

Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by tswartz on Friday January 16, 2015 @06:01PM (#8902343)
Thats a good point. I suppose you could use your taste as a guide to what you may be good at. But, like you said, there is that gap between investing the time and discovering if you are skilled at it.
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by simi_ on Saturday January 17, 2015 @05:51AM (#8904061)
Thank you, I'm going through such a phase (similar to a very long burnout), and this helps.
Re:What Doesn't Seem Like Work? by tswartz on Saturday January 17, 2015 @02:35PM (#8905270)
Glad to hear to it helps. I've watched this many times when I've felt like quitting.