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Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by grecy on Friday January 16, 2015 @12:13PM (#8900147)
Interesting. It had quite the lean, And close to zero vertical velocity. Then it looks like it accelerated at the last second in an attempt to move sideways back the center of the barge.

I wonder if the top of the rocket was at or very near the center?

Also you can clearly see the landing legs deployed, jeez they look tiny.

Must just tweeted "Next rocket landing on drone ship in 2 to 3 weeks w way more hydraulic fluid. At least it shd explode for a diff reason."

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/556105370054053889

Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by mbell on Friday January 16, 2015 @05:22PM (#8902117)
From what I can tell, and I think you can see a bit in the video, when the grid fins ran out of hydraulic pressure they locked full in one direction.

The last burn this thing does is often called a 'suicide burn' as there are a couple complications to landing it. First, it only has enough fuel left for a short burn. Second, it's not possible to run the single engine they use to land it at a low enough thrust level that it can hover. i.e. 1 of 9 engines at the lowest possible thrust it can operate at is more than enough to accelerate the empty stage body upward. As a result they have to 'blip' it just before landing and cut at the exact time needed to reach 0-ish velocity at landing. This means the thing is moving _fast_ just before the video starts.

I'm guessing that with the grid fins locked in an extreme direction 24 seconds before getting to the barge they still had a lot of influence over the flight path since it was still moving fast. This pulled the top to an angle. The engine fired and the vectoring capability of the engine tried to toss it back over the ship but it just couldn't correct the lean before hitting the barge.

Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by ChuckMcM on Friday January 16, 2015 @01:00PM (#8900418)
I really appreciate his matter of factness in these sorts of tweets.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by mitchty on Friday January 16, 2015 @12:49PM (#8900346)
Was probably the engine gimbaling and thrusting up to attempt to correct but was just unable to due to the fins not being around the whole descent.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by 0x5f3759df-i on Friday January 16, 2015 @01:23PM (#8900591)
Not only were the fins unable to move, the position they were stuck in was a very unhelpful position.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by Sammi on Friday January 16, 2015 @02:35PM (#8901118)
Yes, and could speculate that the main engine fired 'wrongly' because the control code didn't take into account that the fins were locked.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by Florin_Andrei on Friday January 16, 2015 @02:43PM (#8901175)
Hm, if I was the guy designing the control loop on that thing (not gonna happen in real world, but bear with me), I would definitely take into account the fins position - the real position, not the one I want them to be in.

Not that it would have helped anyway in this case.

Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by Symmetry on Friday January 16, 2015 @05:43PM (#8902234)
I suspect that the code takes the fin's starting position into account in each planning cycle but also assumes that the fin will move as directed in the future.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by Florin_Andrei on Friday January 16, 2015 @09:16PM (#8903070)
No rotary encoders on those things?
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by _nate_ on Friday January 16, 2015 @01:22PM (#8900582)
To me, the video has an optical illusion effect, caused by the bright light from the engine. The rocket is not directly over the platform, it’s actually off the far corner by about 50-100 feet, it comes horizontally into the platform and crashes over it. Meaning it’s not close to the center of the platform and trying to accelerate off of it, it was laterally moving over it from the side and crashed the engine into the barge, which kicked it up over the platform.
Re:SpaceX: “Close, but no cigar. This time” by m_mueller on Friday January 16, 2015 @09:28PM (#8903107)
Maybe they could improve the failure behaviour with some failsafe mechanism? *If the rocket is not within a certain envelope, gain as much distance to the pod as possible? Later when they want to have landing on land, a designated area for aborting could be used.