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Re:Advanced Off-the-Shelf Targeted Attacks Against Nation St... by sighsigh on Tuesday December 30, 2014 @07:21PM (#8817622)
What's even more problematic is that you have been downvoted on a community that was founded by people who participated in building the tech responsible for forging history's first self-sustaining post-nationalist identity (the internet) in history.

The nation-state must be the enemy, which can only be defeated by a nation-state... because the concept of a nation-state is dying and is engaging in full blown Hegelian dialectics to keep itself afloat. Unions, nationalists, and identity zealots have been having a field day with HackerNews as of late.

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Re:Advanced Off-the-Shelf Targeted Attacks Against Nation St... by gizmo686 on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @12:19AM (#8818341)
>history's first self-sustaining post-nationalist identity

I am not a historian, but wouldn't that honor go to religion? Regardless, religion is certainly older than the Internet.

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Re:Advanced Off-the-Shelf Targeted Attacks Against Nation St... by sighsigh on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:37AM (#8818731)
This is technically correct in concept, but not in practice, as organized religion existed long before the formalization of the nation-state. In fact, one can even argue that nationalism is an agnostic subdivision of organized theology since it utilizes identical symbol worship mechanisms.
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Re:Advanced Off-the-Shelf Targeted Attacks Against Nation St... by wcummings on Tuesday December 30, 2014 @09:17PM (#8817978)
>history's first self-sustaining post-nationalist identity (the internet)

What do you mean by this?

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Re:Advanced Off-the-Shelf Targeted Attacks Against Nation St... by sighsigh on Wednesday December 31, 2014 @04:39AM (#8818732)
It means the internet allows people to communicate, share ideas, and form cultural bonds and identities outside of the highly-restricted context of national frameworks.
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