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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by elvis635 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @08:39AM (#8802497)
Together with umatrix (https://github.com/gorhill/uMatrix/) are the best chrome extensions

Since I went back to firefox those are the only extensions I really miss, there is policeman (https://github.com/futpib/policeman/) but it's not as good as them yet

To whoever develop extensions, please don't focus only on chrome, firefox during the last months has become must better that it was before, if developers only consider chrome, people will eventually migrate to it and firefox will die. Even though chromium is open it won't be good for the ecosystem

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by gorhill on Saturday December 27, 2014 @01:25PM (#8803390)
I do want uMatrix ported to Firefox. The developer who ported uBlock[1] has now made it more easy for me to work on a port of uMatrix, as I have now a model on how to proceed + a lot of code which can readily be shared with uMatrix. Once it is ported, in all likelihood I will myself go back to use Firefox as my main browser.

[1] https://github.com/Deathamns/uBlock/tree/ports/xpi

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by bhrgunatha on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:45PM (#8805269)
Is there anything we can do to help? I'm not sure I personally can help - I've never looked into extensions, but there may be others who can?
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by Nexxxeh on Saturday December 27, 2014 @09:17AM (#8802599)
As my paranoia ramps up year on year, I now use Opera with µBlock. For me, it has the polish of Chrome with some nice extras, but without the increasingly creepy Googality. It works fine, although I've not tried µMatrix. (I have my defaults changed to DuckDuckGo. Usually connecting via a VPN.)

I've whitelisted a few sites I like to support (a couple of webcomics, HaD etc).

I have a lot of filters: "62,501 network filters + 40,728 cosmetic filters".

Opera's task manager says the extension is taking up a mere 32MB. Probably not accurate, but a lot better AdBlock (my previous favourite).

Off-topic but I wish people would stop using Mu for project names. Where is the Mu key on the keyboard? I have to copy and paste or alt-code it. Call the project microBlock or something! They use "u" instead of "µ" on Github, so why not just use something else entirely?

µTorrent was the one that really irritated me because I couldn't type "utorr" to search for it on my start menu.

I'd say something to gorhill (albeit far more politely), but it seems childish and ungrateful. He's clearly poured so much time and effort into making such useful software. "Great software but the name is fucking annoying, mate!"

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by gorhill on Saturday December 27, 2014 @09:26AM (#8802618)
I myself most often write "uBlock" and pronounce "you-block", as in "users decide".

I originally used the mu character in place of the u to emphasize smaller resource footprint relative to similar solutions out there.

I've never been good with picking name etc., unfortunately now we are stuck with it.

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by Intermernet on Sunday December 28, 2014 @04:32AM (#8805847)
Don't sweat it. It's actually quite a good name. It works both as "you block" and "micro block" depending on reading the first character as "u" or "mu".
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by bla2 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:19AM (#8802945)
If this is motivated by your paranoia, why are you switching to a closed-source browser?
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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by GhotiFish on Saturday December 27, 2014 @02:10PM (#8803557)
A security audit done by whom? Surely not people paid by the vendor of the product bring audited... Right?
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by davidy123 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @05:35PM (#8804227)
Use a compose key system, native on Unix (Linux, Mac, etc) and available on Windows. It's very intuitive and will open up your character vocabulary considerably. I use the caps-lock key for compose.

http://fsymbols.com/keyboard/linux/compose/

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by Tanath on Friday January 09, 2015 @07:12PM (#8865273)
DDG lies about not tracking you. Startpage appears not to.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by xenophonf on Saturday December 27, 2014 @09:28AM (#8802623)
http://www.howtotype.net/symbol/Micro/

Sadly, the US-International keyboard on Windows does not implement a shortcut for the "micro" character (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306560).

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by driax on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:57AM (#8802866)
In addition, I pretty sure many European keywords can type µ by alt-gr+m, at least in Windows on my Danish keyword. Only know that because once I had a keyword were they actually had printed it on the key, just like they always do with € on E.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by stinos on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:30AM (#8802796)
There's always character map which has this and like all others you can ever think of. A bit cumbersome, but at least one doesn't have to remember character codes and can search for characters by name.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by seanp2k2 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:57AM (#8803090)
"Let me google that" pulls out character map pretty poor UX if you ask me. Almost as bad for search ability as calling your product "go" or "cloud" or "driver" or any other one-word generic, hard to find even with contextual terms around it.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by stinos on Saturday December 27, 2014 @02:10PM (#8803554)
pretty poor UX if you ask me

yup. Has been around since NT or maybe even longer..

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by raverbashing on Saturday December 27, 2014 @02:47PM (#8803680)
the poor UX is not the Character Map

It is having to open it every time you want to type the name of µSomething

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by Dylan16807 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @08:32PM (#8804749)
The poor UX is the keyboard layout throwing away altgr.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by bashinator on Saturday December 27, 2014 @05:55PM (#8804278)
> Where is the Mu key on the keyboard?

At least for me, option-m is the µ key.

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by drvortex on Saturday December 27, 2014 @12:36PM (#8803218)
There is a μ on the German QWERTZ keyboards.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by colechristensen on Saturday December 27, 2014 @03:28PM (#8803807)
On Apple keyboards Alt+m prints µ.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by MistahKoala on Sunday December 28, 2014 @09:04AM (#8806278)
N00b here - why would someone use both?

I've tried a couple of times to work with uBlock and uMatrix. I ended up going back to ABP each time. The 'block an ad on this page' feature is one of its best and most useful. That, and it doesn't go too far in blocking useful item on-page.

As I said in a similar thread on Reddit a few weeks ago, uBlock has some way to go before it can be considered user-friendly (at least, for the user who isn't familiar with the intricacies of how browsers work). I would love to be able to use it, though. ABP is an enormous resource hog on my system, but more to the point, pages render so slowly when it's switched on.

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by gcommer on Saturday December 27, 2014 @09:01AM (#8802559)
I use NoScript and RequestPolicy for full white listing functionality in Firefox.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by towelguy on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:07AM (#8802903)
I went back to Firefox in the last couple of months and I wholeheartedly agree. I used to use HTTPSwitchboard in Chromium (which divided into uMatrix and uBlock) and I miss it in Firefox.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by _asummers on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:35AM (#8802810)
How does uMatrix compare to something like Ghostery? Would it be redundant to have both?
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by ugexe on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:04AM (#8802894)
Isn't ghostery owned by an ad company?
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by _asummers on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:06AM (#8802902)
Yes, however the GhostRank feature that people don't like is opt-in not opt-out.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by niklasni1 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @05:05PM (#8804131)
What was wrong with Firefox?

I've used it every day since starting a new job seven months ago and I've not noticed any issues with it.

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by scholia on Saturday December 27, 2014 @07:14PM (#8804529)
Firefox has improved a lot and it has been good for more than I year (I switched back in the middle of last year). Before that it was slower than Chrome, and it crashed when trying to read very large pages (eg a tumblr page of gifs).

Google helped to close the gap by making Chrome more bloated and much more unstable.

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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by yourad_io on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:04AM (#8802718)
> learn how to respect the native operating system UI guidelines

Your comment is almost worthwhile just for the irony in this.

Tabbed browsing basically hijacks window management away from the OS. Tabs are always implemented customly in-app (UI break) - and break the UX of window finding, switching, etc. (doubly annoying in a tiling WM, btw). That's all browsers.

> Personally, I hope Mozilla goes away and some other group comes along to fill the void [...]

> No, I much prefer that Mozilla just go away and die.

Yeah, they're just squatting on that cyberspace and not letting other people through.

Plus, FF is bundled/pre-installed everywhere nowadays; sickening! Your hatred is well placed.</s>

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by tracker1 on Sunday December 28, 2014 @03:36AM (#8805763)
Funny, as an early windows user, I had gotten very used to alt-tab for inter-app switching and ctrl-tab for in-app tab/subscreen switching... which works for browser tabs for me... add in shift to reverse the direction.
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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by wander_homer on Saturday December 27, 2014 @11:04AM (#8802895)
So what's exactly your point? How does Mozilla interfere with your life and worsen it, so that wishing them to "die" would be justified?

Why don't you just ignore them? Why do you want thousands of people to lose their job and why do you want to take away an open source software that's liked by millions of users?

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by WorldWideWayne on Thursday January 01, 2015 @04:57PM (#8824489)
So, it's OK when thousands of people here say that they wish Microsoft would go away but I can't say that about Mozilla?

Makes sense.

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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by ferrari8608 on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:11AM (#8802736)
Perhaps it's less about popularity and more your delivery.
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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by eropple on Saturday December 27, 2014 @02:15PM (#8803576)
I would be much less doubting in your position. I downvoted and flagged you for your jerkish rhetoric because it doesn't contribute to the discussion.
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by WorldWideWayne on Thursday January 01, 2015 @05:05PM (#8824512)
Sure it does. I asked why Chrome, not being open sourced, is "bad" for the ecosystem. Unfortunately, I packaged that with an unpopular opinion. Hence, the censorship doled out by yourself and others. Way to go!
Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by yourad_io on Saturday December 27, 2014 @10:15AM (#8802745)
Nah, that fate should be reserved for Mozilla, apparently.
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Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by eropple on Saturday December 27, 2014 @02:16PM (#8803583)
"No, I much prefer that Mozilla just go away and die."

If you're going to try to split hairs over "kill them" versus "go away and die", you're going to have trouble convincing people.

Re:Adblock Plus is probably the reason Firefox and Chrome ar... by WorldWideWayne on Thursday January 01, 2015 @05:09PM (#8824527)
If you don't think there's actually a big difference between actively trying to kill something and hoping that it just goes away and dies, then I guess there's nothing else to talk about.

It's a good thing that people don't need much convincing since Firefox is apparently dying anyway. Good riddance I say :)