Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bprater on Monday October 12, 2009 @02:26PM
(#877338)
It's worth checking out how Amazon did their iPhone Kindle. When you initiate a rotation, it pops up a little button at the corner of the screen for about 2 seconds that allows you to lock that orientation. Most elegant implantation I've seen. It doesn't solve the issue of the user wanting to initiate a rotation without the accelerometer.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by drinian on Monday October 12, 2009 @04:31PM
(#877566)
On the other hand, unless you're on the International Space Station, you probably have enough space to rotate the screen relative to gravity and lock it.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by robin_reala on Monday October 12, 2009 @11:43AM
(#876942)
I like this idea. It does need to be a system-wide thing really, and while this does add a bit of settings and UI clutter itβs a common enough problem that Apple should be doing something to address it.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by chrismear on Monday October 12, 2009 @11:54AM
(#876982)
It might actually reduce clutter, since plenty of apps are now individually adding rotation options to their settings. Having a system-wide setting would simply consolidate all of these in one place.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by devin on Monday October 12, 2009 @01:02PM
(#877141)
Amen. The most annoying 'feature' on my iPhone is auto-rotate. I'll be driving along in my car with my iPhone being used as my iPod, and every time I lay the device down it goes into landscape and I need to put it back when I want to change a song.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by akirk on Monday October 12, 2009 @01:01PM
(#877140)
I haven't jailbroken my iPhone yet, but SBSettings has a solution for autorotation, and brightness, and almost anything that annoys me with my iPhone on a daily basis.
Now that I have seen SBSettings, I am considering jailbreaking. Apple should do something like SBSettings.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by hyyypr on Monday October 12, 2009 @01:32PM
(#877218)
I have a Jailbroken iPhone with SBSettings and the Rotation switch.
First I find no problems with the rotation, I have a 1g iphone for more than a year now, and the only problem I had with rotation was when I was laying, with that SBsettings switch, it's solved.
Second, I agree that SBsettings is the most useful iPhone App and Apple should really look into its features and make them builtin.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bensummers on Monday October 12, 2009 @01:17PM
(#877181)
You're right, it's almost enough to push one into jailbreaking. But I think I'd prefer to run a supported configuration. Computers shouldn't be unnecessarily exciting.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by aerique on Monday October 12, 2009 @05:36PM
(#877717)
Jailbreaking made my iPhone twice as useful. I wouldn't be as enthousiastic about it as I am now if I wasn't able to install a lot of useful software that's only available outside of the Appstore.
I buy most of my software in the Appstore but I've also paid for software on Cydia.
Lookup SBSettings (has a button for quickly toggling WiFi on and off, awesome for battery life and my initial reason to jailbreak), RotationInhibitor, Lock Calendar and iDitDahText (brilliant!).
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bonaldi on Monday October 12, 2009 @03:31PM
(#877458)
Surely this solution is still going to fail the walking/train test -- the icon will be on the screen permanently in those situations.
The phone will detect movement, the icon will appear, it'll fade after a few seconds, the movement will be interpreted as the "shake to bring it back", it'll reappear, then fade, and repeat ad nauseum.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by jimbokun on Monday October 12, 2009 @01:44PM
(#877242)
I recently acquired an iPod Touch, and have not been able to deduce how to activate the rotation feature reliably. I twist it around various which ways trying to make it rotate, and sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Reading this article actually gives me a better idea of how to make it happen reliably. Specifically, I didn't realize that the accelerometer detects motion relative to gravity (makes sense, but I didn't know that).
This particular gesture doesn't really make sense for Apple to use (for rotation, or anything else); its not very intuitive. It doesn't map to any other gesture that users have done on the computer before. Apple would have to teach users how to use this gesture. Its one thing for a game to have ann instruction screen, but quite another for the iPhone to do so.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by rbritton on Monday October 12, 2009 @02:26PM
(#877340)
Preview and a few other OS X apps do currently support a rotational gesture on trackpads. It's not very widespread or widely-known, but it is there already.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by haseman on Monday October 12, 2009 @12:32PM
(#877069)
I wouldn't suggest it as a default setting. If power users want an alternative to holding the device up and shaking it until it switches, this could be it. You make good points, it's not intuitive, but it is a solution that wouldn't require more cluttering UI
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by Zev on Monday October 12, 2009 @02:12PM
(#877309)
Where else is there an "Only for power users" feature in iPhone OS? There's no precedent for this sort of behavior in the iPhone's UI anywhere. No other built-in app has that kind of setting. The closest that I can think of is the developers debug menu in Safari. And thats not "hidden", its just tucked away because its only meant for developing and does get in the way otherwise.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by mcav on Monday October 12, 2009 @02:39PM
(#877356)
A lot of the iPhone settings could be considered for "power users". There's a setting to tell the phone what to do when the home button is pressed; there's one to turn on Caps Lock, Shake to Shuffle, change the Photos' slideshow transition... they aren't unreconicilably technical, but they're subtle tweaks to functionality that power users would enjoy most.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bensummers on Monday October 12, 2009 @02:24PM
(#877334)
In my informal poll of iPhone users, those I would consider non-technical also were frustrated with auto-rotation. I don't think this is something for power users only.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by Zev on Monday October 12, 2009 @05:35PM
(#877715)
I'm not saying that the problem is only a power users problem. Just that the proposed solution is. A simple toggle switch somewhere in Settings.app would work just fine. Or some other solution. Just not this particular solution, a multifinger rotating gesture to rotate the device.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bensummers on Monday October 12, 2009 @12:38PM
(#877092)
However, if it's an option deep in Settings, it's likely that many people who are infuriated with auto-rotation won't find it. By making the UI offer more control and responsiveness, it will help even those users who don't want to go digging into Settings.
Re:IPhone auto-rotation: out of control
by bensummers on Monday October 12, 2009 @12:09PM
(#877028)
I'm not sure (see article) -- it would mean every app developer would have to test with it on and off to make sure that gesture didn't get in the way of their UI. It's also hard for users annoyed with the feature to discover.
I suspect that particular gesture is a little awkward. Try it! Getting enough motion to reliably detect it as something different to a scroll or pinch is almost painful.
Now that I have seen SBSettings, I am considering jailbreaking. Apple should do something like SBSettings.
http://theappleblog.com/2009/06/22/sbsettings-why-i-still-ja...
I buy most of my software in the Appstore but I've also paid for software on Cydia.
Lookup SBSettings (has a button for quickly toggling WiFi on and off, awesome for battery life and my initial reason to jailbreak), RotationInhibitor, Lock Calendar and iDitDahText (brilliant!).
The phone will detect movement, the icon will appear, it'll fade after a few seconds, the movement will be interpreted as the "shake to bring it back", it'll reappear, then fade, and repeat ad nauseum.
This particular gesture doesn't really make sense for Apple to use (for rotation, or anything else); its not very intuitive. It doesn't map to any other gesture that users have done on the computer before. Apple would have to teach users how to use this gesture. Its one thing for a game to have ann instruction screen, but quite another for the iPhone to do so.
I suspect that particular gesture is a little awkward. Try it! Getting enough motion to reliably detect it as something different to a scroll or pinch is almost painful.
Edit: for clarity, hopefully.