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Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:35PM (#8726600)
I doubt they'll do that anytime soon. There are no continental railways to connect to in Alaska, and not much demand for one.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by _delirium on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @09:02PM (#8727265)
The U.S. has been occasionally interested in connecting Alaska to the Canadian rail system, independent of any Russian crossing. But Canada seems less interested. Not sure whether the U.S. is really seriously interested in it, or whether it's just pandering to Alaskan politicians. But there have been some attempts to get Canada on board with the possibility: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Railroad#Proposed_conne...
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by ghaff on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @09:31PM (#8727360)
I strongly suspect it's serious fantasy-land stuff. The existing Alaska railroad network is essentially a Seward-Anchorage-Fairbanks line. (We won't count the narrow gauge from Whitehorse.) Anchorage has the only sizable population along that line--300K people live there. So to connect to the Canadian railroad system you'd build about 1,000 miles of track. There are apparently some resource extraction reasons to build such a link but my impression is that it's mostly Alaskan politicians who are interested.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by grecy on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:43PM (#8726909)
Don't forget the oil, water, electricity and data lines that would also be in the tunnel.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by seanmcdirmid on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @11:06PM (#8727634)
But there is even less in the Russian Far east than Alaska. Water and electricity aren't a problem, data lines go via undersea anyways. Oil...we have tankers and a thawing arctic passage that will pretty soon allow year round shipping.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by jrockway on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:52PM (#8726665)
Freight?

Whenever I have something shipped from China, the tracking shows something like China -> Alaska -> California. (Of course, bulk goods go by boat, but a train could be a nice middle ground.)

Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by privong on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:17PM (#8726776)
I wasn't sure if "Fright?" was meant to ask if there was a freight rail line with a connection or if you were suggesting that freight traffic would provide the demand.. If the former, the Alaska railroad does not have a rail connection to other railroads in North America. It looks like barges are used to link it to the North American rail network.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaska_Railroad

Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by jrockway on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @08:47PM (#8727209)
Basically, I'm guessing that people in this thread assumed "rail = passengers" but I'm guessing that's not why a rail link was proposed, that's all. Passenger rail barely makes money (in the US) running tiny distances between population centers. It's probably not going to make money going from the middle of nowhere Alaska across an ocean. But clearly the idea came from somewhere.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by ghaff on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @10:00PM (#8727447)
The great circle air route between Chinese manufacturing hubs and SFO passes quite close to Anchorage. Not sure why they stop there--refueling isn't necessarily needed so it's probably a hub to offload some cargo for points further east. Going up through Russia and under the Bering Strait would actually go quite a ways north of that route all other considerations aside.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by khuey on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @10:24PM (#8727521)
Cargo doesn't care about the inconvenience of stopping for gas, and that allows cargo airlines to load the planes heavier (remember that much of a passenger aircraft is filled with air, not cargo). Anchorage is also within a 9-10 hour flight of almost the entire developed world, and massively overbuilt from the days when trans-Pacific aircraft had to stop there due to range limitations.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by ihnorton on Wednesday December 10, 2014 @12:33AM (#8727843)
Yup - Anchorage International is the 2nd busiest cargo hub in the US (after Memphis).
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by mikeash on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @10:19PM (#8727503)
Refueling isn't necessary (there are daily nonstop flights from Washington, DC to Beijing, for example) but having an intermediate stop may allow them to carry more cargo on each flight, as air freight is probably weight constrained rather than volume constrained, and less fuel would mean more weight left for cargo. (I could be wrong on that, of course!)
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by ghaff on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @10:26PM (#8727528)
Looks like you're right: http://www.adn.com/article/20130630/fedex-cut-trans-pacific-...

It also looks as if the FedEx was using planes that didn't necessarily have as much range as typical passenger aircraft today.

Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by smeyer on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @06:56PM (#8726681)
But is there actually enough demand to justify the middle ground?
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by jrockway on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @07:04PM (#8726714)
Seems like the US imports quite a bit of stuff from Asia.
Re:The world’s longest train journey now begins in China by smeyer on Tuesday December 09, 2014 @09:50PM (#8727425)
Right, but it also seems massively expensive build rail from Russia to Alaska and from Alaska to the rest of North America. I'm not convinced there's enough demand for imports on the particular schedule of rail to justify that massive expense.