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Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by baudehlo on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:04PM (#8468866)
Which is really only relevant if it's ever found. The ocean is HUGE.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by reitzensteinm on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:27PM (#8468930)
Ever is longer than the ocean is huge :)

It may be practically impossible to find with today's technology, but if the next 100 years of progress is anything like the last, there'll be large scale hobbyist exploration of the sea floor.

The surface area of the world is 510,072,000 km², 70% of which is ocean. That's absurdly large if you're exploring it with 8 figure submarines, but not at all if you're exploring it with the 2114 equivalents of 2014 $100 aerial drones, especially given a larger, wealthier society with more leisure time.

Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by AznHisoka on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:29PM (#8468933)
"especially given a larger, wealthier society with more leisure time."

Didn't technology promise that to us 50 years ago? Now we're busier than ever.

Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by reitzensteinm on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:03PM (#8469034)
This suggests that's not the case:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_time#Gradual_decrease_i...

And work aside, think about living life without modern conveniences such as washing machines, dishwashers, fridges and freezers, vacuum cleaners, electric/gas ovens, microwaves, kettles and air conditioning.

Running a household a hundred years ago (or fifty years ago depending on wealth) would have been a much more time consuming affair for a significantly lower standard of living. I expect that trend to continue.

Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by melling on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:15PM (#8468893)
Well, if we assume that we're looking for an aircraft with a few large pieces, and it's only a matter of time before cheap autonomous submersible vehicles become common, then it probably will be found some day. Might take a decade or two, but at some point we'll extensively map the rest of the oceans.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by baudehlo on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:23PM (#8468916)
I guess the question becomes who is going to pay for these robots? They'll need the ability to dive deep, explore, and then come up for "air" (a recharge). Those aren't going to come cheap. Perhaps the undersea cable conglomerates but it's hard to imagine the use-case for mapping inaccessible areas.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by MichaelGG on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:51PM (#8469194)
Extend past a few decades. A post-scarcity society would almost certainly search every square metre of the ocean for this airplane, assuming humans are still making decisions.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by stouset on Thursday October 16, 2014 @11:49PM (#8469347)
You say "post-scarcity" like it's an inevitable scenario. Resources are finite. Energy is finite. Exponential growth doesn't last forever.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by toomuchtodo on Friday October 17, 2014 @12:29AM (#8469424)
> Energy is finite.

With enough renewable energy from the sun, there is very little we're constrained by

http://www.sandia.gov/~jytsao/Solar%20FAQs.pdf

"All together, the technical potentials can be estimated to be: Solar electricity: 89,000 TWc · (1-0.708) · (1-0.0345) · (0.3) = 7,500 TWc Solar fuels: 89,000 TWc · (1-0.708) · (1-0.0345) · (0.1) = 2,500 TWc Solar thermal: 89,000 TWc · (1-0.708) · (1-0.0345) · (0.225) = 5,600 TWc

These are huge potentials, dwarfing by many orders of magnitude those of the other."

Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by baudehlo on Friday October 17, 2014 @10:19AM (#8471073)
Extend past a few decades and you're beyond the lifetime of the black box, sadly. It would be really frustrating to finally find the plane only to never actually find out what happened.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by melling on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:53PM (#8469197)
Well, the U.S. Navy for one. Just like the air force uses drones, I expect underwater drones to come in quite handy. Submarine tracking, for example.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by exhilaration on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:19PM (#8468908)
It might be covered by sediment by then.
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by cnvogel on Friday October 17, 2014 @02:20AM (#8469661)
Obviously there will be huge differences between different parts of the huge oceans, but as a single data point: I've seen photographs taken of the Titanic wreck, where still single shoes can be seen laying uncovered on the ocean floor in the vincinity...
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by JacobAldridge on Thursday October 16, 2014 @09:18PM (#8468906)
"Equivalent to finding a pen in San Francisco" - http://www.cockeyed.com/science/flight_370/flight_370.html
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by mikeash on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:26PM (#8469126)
I don't like that comparison, because when I think of San Francisco I think of lots of buildings complicating the search by requiring you to go floor to floor, but the comparison is just looking at land area, so it's easier than it sounds (but still really tough).
Re:The Search for MH 370 (Inmarsat) by JacobAldridge on Thursday October 16, 2014 @10:33PM (#8469145)
For mine, the topographical variations of the ocean floor (combined with the fact they're largely unknown, at least to any level of detail) are probably similar to a floor-by-floor search, but you're right than basing it just on area makes for flawed comparisons.