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Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by kansface on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @04:11AM (#8425795)
May I ask where you are from? Free speech - bigoted, hateful, maybe untrue, or otherwise, is perhaps the one enduring (sacred) tenet of American society.
Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by cmdkeen on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @04:40AM (#8425887)
Harassment isn't. One of the big points of the article is that when law enforcement doesn't act that is justification that the action is legal and thus "free speech". Except that law enforcement almost never acts against online harassment. There are plenty of laws restricting free speech when it harms others, and I'd hope you agree that some of the examples in the article crosses the boundary into things that should be criminal.
Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by makomk on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @06:00AM (#8426111)
The boundaries of harassment are very blurry and tend to favour the powerful. For example, some of the campaigns against online harassers look even more like harassment than the actions they're going after people for: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/online-trolls-w... Except that because it's the press harassing people to the point of suicide, we don't see anything wrong with it.
Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by zimpenfish on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @06:03AM (#8426119)
> we don't see anything wrong with it.

Not entirely true - the reaction in the UK to this whole incident has been quite negative from what I've seen. Then again, we're not overly happy with our press at the best of times...

Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by pjc50 on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @12:16PM (#8427718)
Spiked are themselves a bit trollish (in the controversy-maximising sense). That said, two wrongs don't make a right.

People are not happy with the press hounding people to suicide. The Daily Mail has a nasty track record of outing LGBTQ people, for example.

Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by dllthomas on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @04:06PM (#8429162)
The parent wasn't a comment about the article directly, but on a thread that was discussing acceptance or rejection of subreddits for "domestic abuse and snuff". I don't know that these constitute "online harassment".
Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by iSnow on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @04:22AM (#8425829)
Well, this right does not imply that everyone or even a certain service provider has to provide you a platform for it.
Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by wpietri on Thursday October 09, 2014 @12:01AM (#8430754)
Free speech, sure. But freedom of association, too. And accepting the consequences of one's actions.

If misogynists and abusers want to go and construct their own forums, nobody can legally stop them (as long as their discussion stops short of the various sorts of criminal speech, like conspiracy to commit). But nobody is legally obligated to support them, either.

Reddit tomorrow could say, "Welp, we're not going to host people who cause harm in way X". And that's perfectly American because they'd be exercising their own rights. That they choose to support abusers is legal, but it is well within everybody else's rights to point that out, with volume and at length.

Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by ryanpardieck on Thursday October 09, 2014 @01:59PM (#8434031)
And it has almost nothing to do with reddit.

Reddit could censor all instances of discussion featuring the phrase "hackers news" tomorrow, and it's not as if they would be brought up on freedom-of-speech charges.

Re:Trouble at the Koolaid Point by EliRivers on Wednesday October 08, 2014 @06:04AM (#8426122)
And like all religions, it ultimately becomes harmful.