Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by gambiting on Friday October 03, 2014 @09:47AM
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The only part that I didn't like was the "rewards for strangers for rescuing you". Not that there is anything inherently wrong with rewarding people who help you,but I feel like it's kind of wrong to have it advertised as a feature.
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Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by aesraethr on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:05AM
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The fact is people dont react when someone need help in the street/metro. With this kind of reward incensitive, it give a "bonus" to make people move.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by bitJericho on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:17AM
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Is that a fact? I don't think that's a fact.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by TallGuyShort on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:34AM
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They're probably referring to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Psycho.... It's not a fact that no one helps, but it is a fact that there are psychological issues at play that mean people are less likely to help in those situations.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by bitJericho on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:53AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese#Public...
You should read the 5th paragraph down.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by TallGuyShort on Friday October 03, 2014 @11:07AM
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And you should read all the peer-reviewed papers in published psychology journals below that document other examples of this and the factors that affect it?
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by bitJericho on Friday October 03, 2014 @11:31AM
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I'm not saying such an effect doesn't exist. I'm saying the statement "The fact is people dont react when someone need help in the street/metro. " is patently false. There are many many more anecdotes where people do help. In fact, I havent read one anecdote where this device would have changed anything. It seems to me that most of the deadly delay is caused by shock and fear more than anything else.
Feel free to provide me a study where they actually conducted scientifically rigorous tests in public and not just a few guys in a test room. I'd like to see the actual percentage of failures to assist and I'd like to see evidence where this device helps at all. For all we know it could hinder matters, though I would suspect not.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by TallGuyShort on Friday October 03, 2014 @02:52PM
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Then perhaps you need only read my comment. I typed the exact words "It's not a fact that no one helps". I have no interest in providing scientifically rigorous studies for you, I was only helping you see where the GP was probably coming from.
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by zimbu668 on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:33AM
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Diffusion of responsibility is certainly a recognized phenomena:
Re:Gaspard, the anti-assault accessory: never be alone again
by bitJericho on Friday October 03, 2014 @10:50AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diffusion_of_responsibility#Rea...
The only example of a person on the street not being helped is actually completely fabricated by the inept police of the time.